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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Are you saying the 80s movie is brutal? We'll never be on the same page then. And yes, City of Steel was probably one of the top 10 worst episodes of the original cartoon.
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Yes it was. =|
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
As far as Unicron being a "lab experiment", sorry but Call of the Primitives is my singular favorite episode of the series, and ranks up there with the 1986 movie so I accept that origin as best. There's nothing wrong with Unicron being created near the centre of the universe by Primacron...intended to devour the universe so that Primacron could have a blank slate to redesign the universe with. It's more on the rational side of things like Galactus (another devourer or worlds) whose purpose is to maintain balance in the universe.
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He was a lab experiment that got beat by something shiny. The problem with call of the Primitives is the fact it just gets thrown in as an after thought. The fact the new monster gets beat by Grimlock falling on a plug just makes it even worse.
The origin was terrible. You're the only person who I have ever seen try to defend it. Hell, you're one of the few people I've ever seen defend the cartoon at all.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
The whole Primus and Unicron as gods thing (And Primus hiding in an asteroid which becomes Cybertron) was the stupider story IMHO and I never bought it, along with most of the comic series which is pretty bad (Optimus Prime dies because of a videogame).
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No one actually likes Budianski's comic writing. The only reason he got the job is because he wrote all the character BIOs. So yeah the Video game thing was terribad. How ever all the UK only stuff written by Simon Furman and the US stuff written by him is all very VERY good. There's a reason he's still writing the material while everyone else has ****ed off. Primus hiding in the Asteroid makes perfect sense. He needed a physical body and he needed to hide and rebuild. It offers better stories than what the cartoon offered because of it.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
Nothing is moot or definitive in arguments when you are debating design aesthetics. It's all a matter of taste and his iconic character has always had a faceshield. Again, because of my personal tastes, I'm not even going to consider BW.
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"I say this is the way it is and I am not going to consider the things that go against my argument."
Yeaaaaah-- no. Doesn't work that way. You want to play this game the whole Fandom is open. Including the new Prime. So no, he hasn't ALWAYS had a face shield.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
No, that is just for toylines like the Alternators/Binaltech.
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If they say no to being used with toys as guns, do you think they're gonna be okay with their cars actively shooting things?
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
For me, it's all that I care about. Transformers or any cool robot shows or shows about fast cars and all those things are all about style for me over substance. I like art, I like architecture, I like design, I like music. Those are most important to me.
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Then the fact you like TF:TM is beyond me.