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Old 06-06-2008, 01:03 PM   #182
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Holy crap is this thread going around and around.

Yes, you can say bikers jumping the queue at a red light "delay" you further. Now, imagine if I biker couldn't do that. They would never make any good progress forward in heavy traffic. Entirely negates the benefits of biking. Your 3 second delay in passing is far better than a 10 minute delay for the biker.

Also, to those saying they don't understand how bikers can expect a full lane when being passed but then go and pass vehicles themselves without a full lane... here is the key difference. Speed and momentum. A car passing a bike at 50km/h is going to hurt a lot more than a bike passing a car at 30 km/h. The room for error is smaller at speed with the car passing.

Hard to argue those points. The best way for any of this to be resolved is the city get off it's ass and get something done with dedicated bike lanes/paths and a shift of the way drivers and bikers think they can coexist together. God help any of the drivers here if they go to asia... or even anywhere but NA.
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