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Old 06-02-2008, 09:36 AM   #196
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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty View Post
Hmm I get what you are saying but I am not entirely buying the whole concept of "Without X there's no Y." I mean without Edison we're still sitting in the dark? But I digress.

I am kinda torn on Metallica, I don't really appreciate their early trash era, and their new stuff is hardly noteworthy IMO. But during their "middle period" they created some great music, I will agree with that.

Last but not least, I truly don't care about Nickelback or Eminem. My point was that what sets musicians like Bob Dylan apart from other songwriters? I am not saying he is not good (however we define good,great,etc.) Many artists write deeply moving lyrics and you hardly ever hear about them, but he kind of gets into every TOP list by default. It's like the Orr vs Lidstrom (or insert any other great Dman name here) argument, Orr always wins because, well, he played during childhood eras of people who make the NHL Best Of lists

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Err... Orr doesn't win because because of fond memories. Orr wins because he was the greatest Defenceman that has ever played the game. Some people would even argue he was the greatest PLAYER (ahead of even Gretzky himself) of all time.

What defines "great" vs "good" isn't only about the product. It's about the impact of the product.

Queen, Sabbath, Zeppelin, Metallica... these bands didn't just make "good" music. They redefined the very concept of music itself. That's what makes them great.

It's the old argument: Who had the bigger impact - the guy who invented the light bulb, or the guy who made it brighter?





(btw - Comparing Lidstrom to Orr is like comparing Jagr to Gretzky. It won't win you very many arguments.)
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