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Old 05-29-2008, 01:03 PM   #366
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Originally Posted by C_Rush View Post
I really find the whole debate tedious and ridiculous, quite frankly. Simply put, people will believe what they believe.

Personally, I am a Christian and am proud of that fact. I believe God created the universe and set in place the mechanisms needed for species to adapt to their given environments and that those who are successful will survive and those who aren't die out. I have no problem reconciling a creationist faith with evolutionary fact.

The only problem I encounter is when evolutionists state a theory for the origins of the universe as fact that cannot be tested or proven anymore than creationism can. Explaining the origin of the universe as resulting from a hypothetical explosion of super dense matter (what existed before - where did this matter come from?) and subsequent billions of years of random chance is not any more viable than belief in a Creator who set it all in motion - just IMO, of course.

But should it be taught in classrooms? No. Science class is for science, period. If the prevailing scientific thought places evolution at the forefront, that is what should be taught to students. If parents want their kids learning about creationism, take them to church, homeschool them and discuss whatever questions they have. But do not force it onto students who do not belive the same religious tenets you do - same as why we no longer have prayer in public schools.

One of my favorite quotes on the subject comes from Carl Sagan, one of my favorite writers, a preeminant scientist and outspoken athiest:
"There are excesses in science and there are excesses in religion. A reasonable man wouldn't be stamped by either one. There are many interpretations of Scripture and many interpretations of the natural world. Wherever a discrepancy seems to exist, either a scientist or a theologian - maybe both - hasn't been doing his job."
Although you are making a conciliatory post, you are actually conflating evolution with cosmology (which it has nothing to do with). Since when is the Big Bang Theory part of evolutionary theory. I realize that you are doing it innocently. But many of the loudest anti-science voices are doing it deliberately. You find me a published peer-reviewed article where the big bang theory and evolutionary are tied together by some scientific chain of reasoning and I'll buy you a coffee.

EDIT (Of course Photon beat me to it in a more eloquent post... Hangs head and cries....)
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