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Originally Posted by flameswin
You have a lot of good points Sowa, as do the people who arguing against you in this thread. For me, I lie somewhere in the middle. Unfortunitly for you, your finding out from this thread (you probably already knew) that there is a stigma attached to people like yourself, and who you associated with in the past, and some of the responses in here a little over the top imo. I also wonder what other reason the barbs would have been removed for, when the Zoo has clearly stated it's for the protection of the customers.
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My purpose of jumping in this thread wasn't even for arguing for animal rights, etc... This is not the ideal environment to try and convert people and I would rather not bring up that discussion in this forum unless challenged to do so. The main purpose of me being in this thread was to inform the misinformed about direct action animal rights groups. Someone made a statement that it was probably an animal rights group who killed the stingrays. There isn't a case in the history of direct animal rights action of a person or animal being physically harmed. I challenged the posters who claimed so to produce one documented or undocumented. No one could, except someone saying they heard through friends of such ongoings, which is bs because anyone ever involved in ALF action never speaks about it because they could be prosecuted under anti-terrorist bills passed in 2001 (at least in the US). Also, animal rights direct action groups would publicize any successful action through the ALF press office or local media, otherwise the action's motives wouldn't be known. Then someone started posting about PETA's euthanizing of animals, which is irrelevant because PETA doesn't engage in direct action.
Now finally I wouldn't be surprised if direct action groups begin to actually harm people in the future. There are groups in England who released a statement in July last year that they might begin targetting humans who engage in animal cruelty ie research scientists, circus trainers, etc.. Although such action hasn't taken place yet, almost a year later, it probably will eventually as the movement grows more radical in England. They still will not target animals.