^^ Yes, but all those practices and rumors are before the NFL's crack down on such activities at the start of last season. Since the crack down and enforcement of the new rules only one team has been caught. Some of what you quoted is just studying and observing your opponent. Using recording devices to capture signals is altogether different from seeing the signals with your own eyes from your own sideline.
I have no problem with the Patriots, I rooted my ass for them when they played the Rams in the Super Bowl (I usually cheer for the underdog when the Chiefs are not involved). But I find it interesting how Patriot fans get so defensive and upset about talk of the Patriots stealing signals, which they admitted to and were punished for, then turn around and point the finger at the rest of the league for the same thing when there is no evidence of such activity from any other team in the league since the beginning of the 2007 regular season.
I have to laugh at John Madden's quote. The entire Raider organization was know for cheating in the past, especially in his day. For a lot more than stealing signals.
