05-14-2008, 08:50 AM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Nonsense.
Of course other teams are stealing signals. Why do you think coaches are always covering their mouths when speaking?
Took me two minutes to dig up the following:
Stealing signals, spying are part of college football lore
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/cheat...ory?id=2947539
http://sports.outsidethebeltway.com/...just-football/
The NFL doesn’t have any plans to investigate rumors that Dolphins coach Nick Saban may have purchased audio of quarterback Tom Brady’s cadence and protection calls. The reason is simple. A league spokesman said, “that’s just football.”
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...tealing_signs/
"Well, I mean, we all did it, and that was part of it, getting signals," he [John Madden] said. "Every coach in the world is always pushing to get a competitive advantage, that's always been happening.
"And if they are giving away cues, or clues, or whatever tendencies that you could pick up, you take them, and you play against them.
"Part of it is a player giving away a play. Part of it can be the snap count, part of it can be signals that they're signaling in, or you hear the things they yell. That's always been, happening from Day 1 of football.
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Football/C...37311-sun.html
The idea is to follow the NFL's lead of allowing a coach to talk through a headset to his quarterback on the field - via a radio frequency and a speaker in the quarterback's helmet.
"We would very much support that (idea)," said Rick LeLacheur, the Eskimos president and CEO.
"We wanted it looked at for a couple of years. So no one can steal signals."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nfl/index.html
The "stealing'' of signs -- both on offense and defense -- is the area that's most often cited as fertile ground for cheating. The most common practice is for a team to videotape an opponent's signal-givers on the sideline, and later marry up those indications to the game tape in order to identify tendencies or patterns.
Though no disciplinary action by the league ever resulted, the Patriots last year were reportedly the impetus of a sternly written letter from the league office to all teams, reminding them that it was illegal for an advance scout or personnel official to bring a video recording device of any kind into the press box for the purposes of taping a potential opponent's signals or play-calling gestures from the sideline.
Teams have also been chastised for having a second camera in the press box-area video box, with one camera shooting the game action and the other one being trained on the opposing team's signal-givers. On offense, that's why coaches have taken to holding their play-calling charts in front of their mouths when they're sending in the play to the quarterback via the radio headset system.
On defense, teams have gone to having two different signal callers, with one being a dummy signaler and other being responsible for the "hot,'' or real, call. Other teams use different color wrist bands during a game, with the defensive captain switching to a different color before each series, and the defensive signal-caller calling formations and blitzes from a list that corresponds with that color.
"That type of sign-stealing goes on a ton in the league,'' said one NFL source who was both a former coach and player in the league. "From a coaching standpoint, you know who's signaling in the personnel on the opposing sideline, and then there's another guy making the play calls on the headset. Defenses used to watch the play-caller, and if a guy spoke for a real long time, that was usually a pass, because the calls take longer. A run is always a shorter call. So coaches shield their mouths when they're calling plays now. If you make your calls out in the open, the other team will steal your signals and your tendencies.''
Last edited by troutman; 05-14-2008 at 09:04 AM.
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