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Originally Posted by JohnnyB
I don't agree with everything China has done in relocating people, but it's a much more complicated situation than you acknowledge.
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I think that was the point that Azure missed when I bring up England and the USA as examples of other (former) world powers and their international affairs to gain some perspective. You said it perfectly, its such a complicated issue that I don't think its a right or wrong answer, but many factors that go into what happens here - I respect the arguments of human rights (and agree that what is going on there is not right) but its such a complicated issue that I too many arm-chair critics (not you Az) have gone overboard to bash China as a whole, from their society, people and customs. As an outside observer, you should realize that when you enter another society, different customs doesn't mean that they are an animal zoo, and I think too many here have trouble accepting that.
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Originally Posted by peter12
Like building massively inefficient industrial projects and flooding fertile farmland? The Chinese State is on a roller coaster ride towards environmental collapse and one reason for it, is its lack of respect for property rights.
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And its improving. I keep bringing this up, developing countries typically have less concerns over environmental issues, but as they become more established and self-sustaining, environmental concerns start to get addressed and China has gone along ways to doing that in the past year. Moreover, many environmental projects and research are underway to "clean up" China's pollution.
Just see the proposal for Dongtan
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Originally Posted by CubicleGeek
Anyways, they are compensated fairly for it in China too. My uncle was a "victim" of a land reclamation project in Guangzhou and the amount he got for it allowed him to upgrade to a better suite at a slight premium. Though there are alot of things I don't agree about the Chinese government, it isn't quite as barbaric as some would make it seem.
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Thanks for sharing that with us, good to see some perspective.
Also, for the basis of this thread (i.e. media propagation machine) funny to see the CNN and the USA media is no angel either.
http://www.anti-cnn.com/forum/en/thread-50-1-1.html
I think that article is overboard in their accusations, but funny to see none the less. This whole Tibet issue sounds alot like how the USA treated Cuba and many middle east countries.