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Old 03-27-2008, 02:06 PM   #152
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Originally Posted by Flames89 View Post
Just because China has different social norms, does not mean they are any more brutal than other societies.

Yes, they don't line up like north americans
Yes, they have zero embarassment about bodily functions
Yes, business contracts are somewhat thin
Yes, they are ruthless at negotiations
Yes, they can be seen as cold in business

These are just social norms that are different than your own and business norms that are valued in China, and every developing economy. Relationships are most important, before any signature on a piece of paper.

As for their government and Tibet - well, it is an ugly mess. I find more issue with HOW the government handles the problem than the why. It is not my right to say that Tibet deserves to be free, as I am not familiar enough with the history, and we can't just support every group of people who want to seperate from their country. No, I have more problem with the lying liars and the lying that they do ... China's attempts to explain what is going on and shielding the truth from their public is belittling to the international ego - do they really think we are that stupid?

But again, this is coming from a culture that has not questioned their leadership in a LONG time.
Excellent post!
Particularly the first part.

Depending on your take on Taiwan, I've lived in China for about a year and a half. My friends are all Chinese, I speak Chinese in daily life, I live with Chinese guys and spend holidays with their families. I don't know everything about Chinese culture, but I'm reasonably immersed in it and I can attest to the fact that it's a working system that just has different values. Things may seem ed from the outside, but, there are non-Western habits around...

Anyways, on the topic of the government, I agree it's ed. To be frank I'm actually starting to feel a little concern over what I should be publicly expressing on the topic of Tibet recently. I've never felt that here before. The Great Firewall of China is also a major piss off. It has been really ramped up for the Tibet stuff. You may not believe this, but I opened a CP thread with links to Tibet stuff yesterday and was promptly blocked from accessing CP at all. In prior times there have been plenty of blocked news sites, but it seems like any site with keywords or links to blocked sites are now being checked and locked down.
Amazing!
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