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Originally Posted by Azure
The crusades for one....although they could be seen as 'war'....and not 'murder'...whatever the difference is.
Not to mention all those people the Catholic church burned as heretics....and all those they killed during the reformation.
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I'm just wondering where you go the numbers from. No one would argue that the Catholic church doesn't have its hands dirty.... although most of the heretic burning was post reformation conducted by Calvinist sects, or was isolated to particular cultures (such as the Spanish inquisition).
And yeah, I'd classify the Crusades as a series of wars. Atrocities alomst always happen in war, not that is is right, but it happens (including some modern day ones by us). The crusades were not unlike the Mongol invasions or Viking pillages, but I doubt too many people would hold it against modern Mongolians or Scandinavians.