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Originally Posted by photon

A lie, there's two posts which you copied and pasted from christiananswers.net. Why should we believe you about the rest?

Oops my bad. Two then. But rest was mine.

How about you explain to me the difference between a theory and a law and how they relate to each other. THEN you might realize how completely absurd this statement is.

Well obviously you're a bigger science buff than I am so I would imagine you'd already know the answer to this one, but from what I remember being taught, a scientific law is something that has accepted as being true without a shadow of a doubt. Like gravity. A theory on the other hand is a developed hypothesis (idea) which has enough supporting evidence that it is feasible to believe in as being true.

Not therefore, it does not follow because your premise is flawed.



Now we have to establish that you understand what evidence is. You have presented no evidence, please provide a definition of scientific evidence and detail what evidence you've provided and how it supports your claim.

Evidence would be proof, or a result of tests and experimenting, that supports your claim, whether thats a hypothesis you made up, or a theory that already exists.

Wow, this coming from a proponent of a religion that proposes to be the exclusive path to God. I can't tell you how much intolerance I have seen and experienced at the hands of the people in the churches I've gone to throughout my life.

Thats unfortunate and I honestly feel for you and anyone else who's had to experience that. Some religious kooks think the only way to assimilate people to their beliefs is to tell them they're going to hell if they don't. Unfortunately that's not the way Christianity is supposed to work, although admittedly far too many take that approach.

To answer the question, there IS something wrong with letting others believe something different. Ignorance is the key to bondage, education is the key to freedom, not educating people on how to think critically and examine their beliefs is the best way to keep people controlled.

But it's still a choice, education can't be forced. If people want to believe in a flat earth, I'm going to try to show them better. If they want to ignore reality and keep believing it, that's fine. But they aren't going to push society backwards by teaching it in schools.

But this isn't education, knowledge, and right and wrong. Comparing the theory of intelligent design to that of the world being flat is ridiculous. Scientific law has taught us that the world is round, anyone who chooses to believe otherwise isn't just delusional, they are wrong.

If the idea of intelligent design really held absolutely no evidence at all, then why has it not been dismissed completely as a possible theory and why is it still being taught in the schools? Religious nuts don't have that much pull in society.

I totally agree. The message itself does enough to discredit itself in this case. Science works.



That's unfortunate. I hope that someday you get the desire to look at the real science rather than the straw men put up and knocked down by sites like the ones you quoted.

I may not be a real scientist like you are or claim to be, so actually my knowledge is deep enough for me personally to believe something and be convicted of that belief and not be swayed by anyone else's viewpoint. That knowledge might not be deep enough for me to wage a war of words against an intellect like you, but how good of a debater someone is doesn't determine whether their opinions and beliefs are right or wrong.

Again, I said earlier I was done with this thread but just thought I needed to clear some things up, and also the fact that above all I haven't rammed my ideas down anyone's throat and harbour no ill will at all. So science isn't my greatest source of knowledge. That doesn't however mean my beliefs are inferior.