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Originally Posted by arloiginla

Actually I only cut and pasted one post in this topic. The rest has been mine.

A lie, there's two posts which you copied and pasted from christiananswers.net. Why should we believe you about the rest?

The one point I noticed nobody's been able to dispute is that neither creationism nor evolutionism is a scientific law - it simply hasn't been proven as such.

How about you explain to me the difference between a theory and a law and how they relate to each other. THEN you might realize how completely absurd this statement is.

Therefore no matter which side you choose, you still have to make a blind assumption or leap of faith one way or another.

Not therefore, it does not follow because your premise is flawed.

I presented evidence supporting my claim, you chose to discredit it. That's your choice. But that doesn't mean the evidence doesn't exist. Same goes the other way naturally.

Now we have to establish that you understand what evidence is. You have presented no evidence, please provide a definition of scientific evidence and detail what evidence you've provided and how it supports your claim.

You wonder why some creationists always "force their ideas" on others and it always pisses you off. Well as someone on the other side I'll be the first to say that actually I think it happens the other way around more often than not. What's so wrong with letting others believe in something different than you?

Wow, this coming from a proponent of a religion that proposes to be the exclusive path to God. I can't tell you how much intolerance I have seen and experienced at the hands of the people in the churches I've gone to throughout my life.

To answer the question, there IS something wrong with letting others believe something different. EDIT: I should clarify, I don't mean simply being different, I mean believing things that aren't based in reality, like flat earth or that a magic stick will protect you from AIDS. Ignorance is the key to bondage, education is the key to freedom, not educating people on how to think critically and examine their beliefs is the best way to keep people controlled.

But it's still a choice, education can't be forced. If people want to believe in a flat earth, I'm going to try to show them better. If they want to ignore reality and keep believing it, that's fine. But they aren't going to push society backwards by teaching it in schools.

And also, attacking the messengers doesn't in any way mean their message is therefore discredited or not true.

I totally agree. The message itself does enough to discredit itself in this case. Science works.

I am done with this thread

That's unfortunate. I hope that someday you get the desire to look at the real science rather than the straw men put up and knocked down by sites like the ones you quoted.