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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
So what does ID have to with Jesus? Nothing. That's my point.
Christianity is simply the religon of believing Jesus was devine and following his teachings. ID is completely independent of Christianity as evidenced by the fact some Jews, Muslims, and even Hindus support ID (Google is my friend). It doesn't matter if a Christian coined the term or not - it applies outside of the religon. Darwin coined the term "natural selection", but theories of evolution existed long before that. ID is the same in that respect.
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You can avoid the reality as much as you want, it doesn't change the reality. The current Intelligent Design movement was started by and is currently used by Christians for the intent purpose of deceiving others.
"Our strategy has been to change the subject a bit so that we can get the issue of intelligent design, which really means the reality of God, before the academic world and into the schools" - Phillip Johnson, a major proponent of ID.
I agree with you that ID doesn't have anything to do with Jesus, but you'll have to take that question up with the Christians who insist that it does. That members of other religions support Intelligent Design makes some sense but that doesn't change the facts around the origin of the current movement. Which this thread is about, it's the context of the capitalized term we're using. If you want to ignore common uses of words for some reason that's fine, just let others know you want to ignore it.
The current ID movement was created by Christianity to defeat "scientific materialism" and replace it with "science" that submits to Christian convictions, and to reshape public policy to reflect conservative Christian, specifically evangelical Protestant, values. This is directly from the Wedge Document, a political plan by the Discovery Institute, one of the major driving forces behind ID. One of its authors specifically said themselves ID and the wedge strategy was designed to appeal to different religions on purpose.
If you want to discuss the origins of the idea of intelligent design among Greek philosophers, you can start a thread on it, but this thread is about the movie Expelled and the current Intelligent Design movement.