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Originally Posted by Kipper is King
Yes, I did change the issue at hand, because it was begging the question of the existence of God.
As for the issue of there being different gods, let me propose this: Let's ignore religious differences for the sake of this debate and simply debate wether God could have created and designed the earth- whatever one's idea of god may be.
It was a valid point you raised.
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I don't really think it does beg the question since God could exist AND the universe could have come into existence completely independently of God and God just took it over (he found it on his way home from school), or God could be a natural emergent property of the universe, or whatever..
But yes I am fully willing to concede that it is possible a non-specified deity created and designed the earth and the universe. But there's no evidence to support it, so the proposition that the universe was created six minutes ago by the FSM holds as much weight.
Discussing the merits of God as creator vs. FSM as a creator is a theological discussion, where the context of ID is a scientific discussion.