[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally Posted by Azure

I would think that every race/culture/ethnic group should be responsible to look after their own lives.

But when that group institutes a code for their brethern to follow, and establishes a community standard to uphold so as to improve their own lot, that race/culture/ethnic group is racist? How do they win again?

Nobody should ever depend on the government, ever.

Where has Obama or anyone from his church demanded that the government do anything for them? Oh yeah, they haven't. They're trying to get the black man to stand up for himself and improve the black community on its own merits. Damn those black men!!!

But you're right....racial supremacy is wrong BOTH ways.

And where has Obama's church claimed racial superiority? They haven't. More arm waving.

Yet I don't see the benefit in continually talking about the 60's, segregation slavery, and overall racism as if they are still in rampant use today. Yes I know black people haven't exactly had the best ride in the past century....but you could say that for a lot of other ethnic groups too. Does that make it any better? No.

Those issues are still alive today and that is where the bitterness comes from. As Obama stated in his speech, that neither you or CalgaryBornAgain have bothered to read, there have been advances made, but those advances do not equate equality and do not make up for the decades of abuses.

Personally I think Black people would do a lot better if they took initiative and began trying to fix some of the others that exist amongst their culture.

But when they try, and establish these expectations of contributing to the improvement of their own lot, they are jumped on for doing so and claimed to be racist in their own right. They can't win based on your lot.

Unlike what Rev. Wright said....the reason there are more black prisoners than white, isn't the governments fault. Its a problem that stems all the way back to how the parents are raising their kids.

It's environmental. Black kids grow up with poverty, no education, no work prospects, and ever increasing costs of living. Gee, now why would they turn to crime to survive?

I always love the middle class white kid from rural Alberta or British Columbia trying to speak to the state of the black community. It never ceases to amaze me how the people in these locales gain their insight into the plight of the black man and the ghetto life when it doesn't exist for 1000 miles in any direction. Oh, I forgot. Rap music, YouTube and MTV tell you everything you need to know about the black experience.