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Old 03-19-2008, 01:18 PM   #503
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos View Post
It's pretty straightforward -- this guy spends his time preaching and believing what I consider to be nonsense, so he shouldn't have an influence on decisions that affect the country, let alone the world.

But if you want to be specific... the government should be thinking "long term" all the time (even though they don't). The decisions they make might be felt for generations. This Parsley guy writes books about how people living right now can get ready for the end of the world. He ain't thinking about future generations because he, apparently, doesn't think there will be future generations and I can only imagine he'd plan accordingly.

Why worry about the future when there isn't one?
Well you've got a point there. For instance, I'm sure he wouldn't be as interested in long term environmental issues as someone who sees this planet as all that we have got. There is the stewardship issue of course: We need to be good stewards of what God provides. But he may not see the urgency that someone without his beliefs would have.

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Another reason is that he believes (correct me if I'm wrong) there will be a war in the Middle East and then Jesus will come down from heaven and take him to paradise. One concern (of many) I have with this is that he just might think it's in his best interest to hasten what he thinks will be his ascension to heaven by stirring up more trouble over there.
Well I'm not sure exactly what this guys believes but, most Christians are happy they aren't the ones to decide when the tribulation occurs. Yes we go to heaven but, we go there anyways when we die. There would be very few Christians who don't have relatives who are unbelievers and salvation during the tribulation is a long shot. Your going from a time of grace to a time of judgement. Who would wish that on someone they love.
Also, I'm not sure how you would hasten the end as President. From what I understand the prophesy describes an uprising against Israel by several nations that is squashed by a world leader who promises peace for all. This guy is seen as the long awaited Messiah(Christ) and quickly sets up a world government. At about 3 and a half years in this antichrist turns into the tyrant he is. Bad stuff continues to happen until the seventh year when the antichrist mounts an attack on Jerusalem. At that point Jesus returns and sets things right. The church leaves the scene somewhere along this time line depending on whether you are pre, mid, or post-tribe.
So if this guy sees the Muslim nations as the initial attackers of Israel who's side does he advise McCain to be on?[/quote]

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Bla bla bla. I don't think McCain actually believes any of this stuff anyway and is just currying favor with those who do. I still don't like the idea of people who think "Satan" exists and is out there pulling strings, or that I am a heathen destined to spend eternity in his clutches, having influence on anything other than their own mind.
I agree. I doubt McCain holds any strong religious convictions. Most politicians do things to get and retain public office that are in direct conflict with strong religious faith. Bill Clinton and I assume Hilliary are Southern Baptists in name at least.
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