I wish this debate could be split into its own thread. I'm sure there are a huge number of people who look at the title of the thread, then at how many pages the thread has grown to, and don't even bother reading any of it. Which is a shame because this is currently a pretty good discussion that I'm sure a lot more people would be interested in reading.
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