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Old 08-16-2004, 12:02 PM   #19
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First of all, you've taken a far liberal approach as the typical leftist, and compared it to a centrist conservative approach as the typical right. Every solution can be negotiated vs. sometimes might needs to be used??? And how can you support stating that liberal economic policies are unrealistic and tending to screw a society when both Canada and the US have had much greater prosperity under recent liberal governments than conservative governments? Unless of course you want to compare extreme liberal policies to centrist conservative policies just to support your side again.

If you take a look at a great many of the economic successes they were started and initiated by the previous conservative governments. The Liberal's in Canada for example are only good at taking credit for them. From a certain point of view a baboon could run Canada's economy because a great deal of automation in it now. But it takes a liberal or conservative to be able to throw a wrench into the machinery and screw it up. The Economy of Canada generates revenue in spite of the Liberal policies put into place and the wasteful spending on overfunded social programs, and vote buying scams.

And besides the Conservatives (big C) are just as guilty of it, but they are merely liberal light in thier polices the World hasen't seen a true Conservative platform sinces the 19th century.

As far as defining Ultra Left to Centralist conservatives, you could possibly be right, it just strikes me as odd, that University professors, government officials and other people who haven't actually had to function in the real world are the ones that drive liberal policy.

Its just like Karl Marx and the development of Communist theory, had no real basis in how the real world model worked, because he never worked in the real world.

I'm going to take heat for this whole post, but I don't care. The biggest problem with our government right now is that they don't know how the real world works because they've never been there. The biggest problem with a lot and not all university professors that are teaching our kids is they teach straight out of thier favorite textbooks with no concept of fairness or balance because they've never seen how thier model works in the real world
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Contrary to what seems to be the general sentiment around here, as people leave university they don't move right because it is the more realistic ideaology. Centrist liberal views are just as realistic as centrist conservative, and extreme conservative views are just as unrealistic as extreme liberal. IMO, the reason some people shift is because they become more self-focused; they become less concerned with the well being of the world and society and more concerned with themselves and their family; making sure children they'll never meet have health care loses importance to having money to put their kid through university.

I don't buy this for a second. People don't become self aborded like that due to anything except that thier idealogical concepts no longer function once they get into a real world model. You might be stating it differently, but it would be nice to feed the world and provide healthcare for my children, but government economic policy might prevent that through to over taxation etc. Economic reality is the great equalizer.

People also become a lot more open minded when they're put out from the shielded life of a university student where your almost forced to agree with your professor in theoretical subjects in order to get a passing grade. Try debating a Pro-Union professor on the evils of a union sometime in a term paper, its a guaranteed riot.

The real world has a way of jading people on thier political beliefs and economic duties in a very short period of time, hence hippies became yuppies who becam staunch conservatives in large numbers.



Neither view is more right, neither is more realistic, just different priorities

That I can agree on, however it would be interesting to see where the shift lies and in which direction it goes. Too bad our government hasen't paid me a coupla mil to do that for a living.
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