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Originally Posted by Agamemnon
I'm not sure that Socialsm believes 'people need to change in order to transform society', any more than Democracy needs people to change to make the system work. Nor does Socialism (in the political definition) advocate killing people to 'force change'. Technically a Socialist ideology would be universal healthcare, stronger centralization of government (ie, reduction of massive Provincial powers), equalised distribution of resource revenues, etc., etc.
Probably just a mis-use of the term 'Socialism'. There are people here who would define themselves as 'Socialists' and might take great offense to the implication they have 'no regard for human life'.
I think you're talking about Stalinist/Maoist Communism, which is really just Oligarchic Dictatorship dressed in Socialist clothing.
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Well, a modern socialist democratic agenda includes your list, universal healthcare etc... But let's be honest... all modern socialists have sold out to capitalism. All respect private property and the individual.
Classic socialism with roots in Hegal and Marx, with revolutionary adaptions by Mao, Lenin, Trotskey, and Stalin definitely advocates the wiping of human nature with a re-write carried out by a strong state.
The assumption of changing people still holds true. The abolishment of property laws, the annihilation of land-holders and businessmen, and the use of terror to rule an innocent people are all implicit in the development of true socialism.