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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Because the Iraq war has nothing to do with the Kurds or freedom for their people. The Kurds are a minority spread across multiple Arab states and destablizing Iraq wont help them one bit, freeing between 10-15% of their people wont do a lick of good because in order to actually solve the problem, the Arab states containing large numbers of the Kurdish minority actually have to work together to achieve something.
If you want, we can turn this into yet another debate about the Iraq war, but "Freeing the Kurds" wasn't much of a reason for invading. An excuse if anything or even a side effect.
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I think its a very fine line when you begin talking about people deserving their own state and as a government endorsing that. I can name at least 3 cultures that have been oppressed equally if not worse for the last 50 years that "deserve" their own state. Don't get me wrong, I am glad Kosovo will be its own state, but the term "deserve" as you used earlier makes the argument very selective.
FOL: Who cares what the US says or thinks on this subject("right to self determination"). You are a) ignoring the fact in your original post that the US only sent targeted missions into Kosovo after the EU begged them to do so and b) that there was never an occupation of the country. They are not the people who have to live day to day in Kosovo. What does the left think? What does the right think? What do the new Candidates think? What does Arnold Schwarzenegger think? Who cares! Let the Palestinians and the Kurds and the Chechnyans build their own states. In Africa it is this "what does who superior nation think" that got us into the mess we are in there right now.
On a personal note since you brought up the US government, I wish they would stick the foreign policy makers in a makeshift White house in Baghdad or in the West Bank and let them make foreign policy there. It would accelerate their decision making and negotiations a little.