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Old 02-13-2008, 07:46 PM   #145
Clever_Iggy
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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat View Post
A few things.

1. The oil in Iraq was recently bumped to 200, 000 barrels a day. Did it used to be at that level? Yes. Was it under control of US oil companies? No. Is it now? Yes. Your comment about Iraqi's benefiting from the Oil flowing out of Iraq right now is completely uninformed.
2. Did you even read the news story I linked you to? It's been proved that oil companies are benefiting from the US invasion. Your ability to spit out lies is impressive.
3. Saudi Arabia's royal family is in bed with the US. That's the reason they haven't invaded Saudi Arabia.
4. Don't compare Alberta to Iraq, it's got nothing to do with this.

Do you really think the US would care about a 5 year setback in oil production? This is a long term plan, the present needs of the country were not of concern.

Anyways, you can continue to believe the best course of action is to stay in the country long term to 'increase the production of oil, fix the infrastructure and improve the quality of living is in the best interest of the Iraqi people'. Fortunately, the administration about to enter into office is not as naive as the people who share your opinion, and a full scale pull out is on the way.
Do you truly believe that pulling out immediately and completely is really the best course of action? If your assertion that the US is in Iraq strictly for oil, do you believe that the US would then pull out, losing access to that oil and allowing a country to spiral out of control into worse civil unrest?

I know youre an avid conspiracy theorist and that you cant stand the Bush administration. It's understandable. Right now we dont know what Obama's platform is on Iraq. He's trying to win the Democrat nomination. He needs to appeal to the left. If he wins the nomination, we'll all get to see where he stands and what his plan is as he'll have to appeal not only to the left, but also to moderates.

I think Obama is intriguing - certainly a better option than Hilary. However, Im taking a wait and see approach with regard to the full scope of his electability because frankly - we dont know what that is yet. All we know right now is he's promising a change from Bush and Democrats are eating it up because that's what they want to hear.

Are you simply against McCain because he is Republican and his stance on Iraq isnt "withdrawal immediately"? What exactly do you not like about McCain without using the phrase "same old same old"? And what exactly to you like about Obama other than his apparent plan to withdraw immediately and without using the word "change" or phrase "different than Bush"? Simply because he's a Democrat isnt an option either. Im not being a smart a**, Im just curious to see what else is driving your (and others) like for Obama.
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