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Old 02-13-2008, 07:38 PM   #143
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Originally Posted by HotHotHeat View Post
A few things.

1. The oil in Iraq was recently bumped to 200, 000 barrels a day. Did it used to be at that level? Yes. Was it under control of US oil companies? No. Is it now? Yes. Your comment about Iraqi's benefiting from the Oil flowing out of Iraq right now is completely uninformed.
Ummm, they're producing a lot more than 200,000 barrels per day. I said they increased their production by 'that much' in November and December of last year.

Iraq gets that money...and with it they pay off the loans that the World Bank, the IMF and other agencies have loaned them.

They do benefit....in fact I cannot possibly understand how you can make an ignorant comment like that. The US does not make 100 bucks for every barrel that Iraq pumps out. The Iraqi Government does...and with that money they are funding their budget.
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2. Did you even read the news story I linked you to? It's been proved that oil companies are benefiting from the US invasion. Your ability to spit out lies is impressive.
What lies?

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3. Saudi Arabia's royal family is in bed with the US. That's the reason they haven't invaded Saudi Arabia.
Again, that is one of your conspiracy theories.

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4. Don't compare Alberta to Iraq, it's got nothing to do with this.
The second largest oil reserve(not Iraq, BTW)....does not have anything to do with this?

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Do you really think the US would care about a 5 year setback in oil production? This is a long term plan, the present needs of the country were not of concern.
So what changed? Saddam was still going to sell his oil....the US was still going to buy it....only thing, they're now buying it at twice the price compared to how it was before they went into Iraq.

Meaning it costs the US twice as much to refine it.

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Anyways, you can continue to believe the best course of action is to stay in the country long term to 'increase the production of oil, fix the infrastructure and improve the quality of living is in the best interest of the Iraqi people'. Fortunately, the administration about to enter into office is not as naive as the people who share your opinion, and a full scale pull out is on the way.
The people who share my opinion are the people who are in Iraq doing that exact thing.

I would think General Petreaus knows a bit more about what is going on over there than you do. And last time I checked....he didn't support pulling out all the troops tomorrow.

If there is ONE thing that history should have taught us....its that not finishing the job in the first place(Afghanistan instantly comes to mind)....results in greater repercussions later on.

You don't remember Afghanistan, after the Russians were defeated? IIRC, Senator Wilson lobbied Congress to provide money to build schools and restore the infrastructure. Instead the US turned a blind eye, and 15 years later they were attacked by people who operated out of there.

Yeah, right....we should just abandon Iraq....cut and run, and leave them to solve their own problems.

Perhaps you should quit being so idealistic....and look at things in reality. Not in your skewed 'conspiracy' laden world.

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