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Old 02-13-2008, 03:52 PM   #130
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Let me rephrase the question. Are you accusing people here of being uninformed?
Some, yes, are simply looking at the message of 'change' and jumping on his bandwagon without REALLY knowing what he stands for.

I'm very surprised by the 'blind support'.....considering CP argued for years upon end that THAT support was a very big problem with the Bush administration.

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You seem very bitter towards a lot of the optimism Obama has created, yet other posts make you sound as if you support him.
Believe it or not...I do suppot some of his ideas. Some.

Am I bitter? Not really....I just want people to look beyond his campaign slogan. As I see it, the American people are frustrated with the current government, and Obama knows that, so he effectively uses the 'change' message to gain votes from people who have no idea what his policies are.

Is that not disturbing to you? It is to me, especially considering that Obama has yet to campaign based on his actual platform. Very scary....after the past 8 years, that people will still blindy follow someone because he is a great public speaker.

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If you're of the opinion that his running platform is too vague, I'd suggest doing some further research to educate yourself.
I would think that it is Obama's responsibility to bring that information to the public....and not force the public to go search for it.

I can't wait for the primaries to be over....I really want to know how Obama responds to 'actual' issues.

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Whats your point? I've looked at every candidate's platform....

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Also, your comment suggesting a pullout of Iraq would start civil war is the result of republican rhetoric on the issue. Polls done by international news agencies in the country favor the US leaving all together, and letting Iraq deal with it's own problems. Iraqi's want the US to leave. They know the situation much better than the propagandist reports coming out of US media allow us to understand it.
Polls? You want Obama to make foreign policy decisions based on polls?

Iraq dealing with their own problems would cause civil war. You can keep living under the illusion that it won't. Fact is that the Iraqi Government is NOT ready to take over the country....and until they are it is the responsibility to the US to clean up their own mess.

2 million people died in Vietnam when the US decided to let them deal with their own problems.

But hey, cut and run....surely it must be the best solution.

Look at it this way....with the recent surge, we have reason to be optimistic....and face it, a stable and democratic Iraq would go a LONG ways to solve the problems in the ME. Especially if they can function by themselves.

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