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Old 02-12-2008, 12:34 PM   #26
Sparks
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Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame View Post
Like I said it's a world we probably don't like but it's an easy way out and completely logical and scientific.

We just have to dump anything based on values to make it a much simpler world for us.
I think we might not be understanding each others' point, and if so, I'm sorry, because I think we actually agree when it comes to the problem in the grand scheme of things.

My point is that considering things from an economic point of view is not devoid of values - quite the opposite. It is a value statement. Likewise with what you've called the scientific and the political points of view.

Here:

"Humans should be wiped out because they are destroying the planet."
Implied value statement: "I believe that the continued survival of all other living things on earth is more important than that of human beings."

"Gravity causes objects with mass to be attracted to objects of larger mass."
Value statement (could be): "I believe that it is more important to explain the world in terms of non-supernatural, discoverable laws than to see things as controlled by the whim of a supernatural being."

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