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Old 02-07-2008, 04:32 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan View Post
Complete and utter BS.

The information would've had to come from normal intelligence gathering. Where are the agents who initially obtained it? With all the whistleblowing that has gone on in that administration in the last 5 years do you really think they'd be quiet?

NORAD...what does NORAD have to do with it?
Are you kidding me? Dis, your lack of knowledge on the subject is quite stunning.

The original plan was hand delivered to the State Department in 1997 (IIRC) after the Phillipine police busted Ramzi Yousef in Manilla. He was the guy who was behind the '93 bombing of WTC. He turned over the whole plan, with each and every detail as to how it would take place. The information was confirmed by British, French and Germans. Days before 9/11 the Germans and French delivered detailed reports of the exact theat in question. It was all very well known to the Administration, but they ignored it. Good lord, it was in a Presidental Security Brief a month earlier that the htreat existed. They had knowledge of the attack and ignored it.

Now what would NORAD have to do with this? NORAD provides all responses to issues with aircraft in domestic airspace. They would be responsible for scrambling fighters to protect cities and escort planes reporting issues, or not following flight plans (in 2000, NORAD scrambled fighters over 100 times to escort planes in distress). The minute they are notified of an issue with a plane (transponder not functioning, flight plan not being followed, communication links lost, etc.) NORAD would be notified and action taken. Not a single fighter was scrambled until after the final plane was over Shanksville. Pretty weak when Washington was a target, and Andrews AFB is essentially in Washinton. The stand-down was the key point in not providing any response that could have prevented any of the attacks from taking place.

I know, I know, that's just way too much to believe.
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