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Originally Posted by Azure
The Brits still stand by that story.
Quite the lie, huh?
Right.
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Uh huh. The point isn't what the British claimed, or claim now, but that the Americans didn't believe them yet STILL included it in the speech. Is it not a lie when you knowingly claim something on someone else's authority when you know it to be false from your own investigation?
See this
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Originally Posted by Azure
The Bush administration view, as defined by the Colin Powell speech before the UN, postulated that there might have been a cooperative relationship, but that Saddam was not supportive of the 9/11 attacks. Powell presented several credible intelligence reports vetted by the Intelligence Community showing contacts between Iraq's Intelligence Service and al-Qaeda. Powell pointed out that Saddam had already supported Islamic Jihad, a radical Islamist group and that there was no reason for him not to support al-Qaeda. Powell discussed concerns that Saddam may provide al-Qaeda with chemical or biological weapons.
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The official September 11th commission concluded that there were no links between al-Qaeda and the Iraqi gov't, and no real evidence to make anyone ever think so. See this
link for confirmation. The whole thing was concocted because of some interrogation evidence from an Iraqi defector who said he "heard" about connections at second hand. That's like me saying "oh yah man, Xenu is DEFINITELY coming to enslave us all" because Tom Cruise said so.
It's debatable whether Bush
purposely lied or not, but an unwitting lie is no more excusable anyway - when you are talking about starting a war, killing hundreds of thousands of people and spending hundreds of billions of dollars, you have to be accountable if the premises you did all this upon turn out to be completely wrong.
There was no WMD, there were no ties with al-Qaeda, and Iraq was not a threat to the USA - and has Bush stood up and said, "I was wrong all along, I was misled, I acted without making sure I was doing the right thing"? No, he has not. Unlike Truman, who had "The Buck Stops Here" on his desk, Bush's motto is "Pointing out My Mistakes is Letting the Terrorists Win".