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Old 01-23-2008, 05:10 PM   #73
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um...so you are saying that a strong church helps create a larger population and stops hedonistic pleasures?
Why cant a government simply enact laws whereby parents get paid to have children or dont have to pay taxes for "x" years? (See Quebec for partial answers) The Hedonistic part I dont buy...simply look at the number of Priests getting nailed for past issues with children. Of course Im assuming that they got pleasure from what they were doing.
I simply cant imagine any era that was more in decline than when the church ruled with an iron fist!
I'm sure our society will be quite a fine place to live in with offspring born to parents for financial planning purposes.

What I meant when I used the term hedonism in Europe was rather a word to describe treating life as an experience soley for one's own personal gratification. Combine millions of people doing exactly that and you get low productivity, low birth rates, state envolvement in every facet of life ensuring that people do the least amount of bothersome work as possible, and societal decline. In other words as a society they're doing it to themselves. Add in external threats that post-Christians couldn't bother to get off of their computers/couch/beach/bed/etc to defend against and Europe will collapse (Afterall it's other people dying, who cares? Why would they deny themselves time spent living life to the fullest, for the sake of other people unrelated by blood to them?).
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