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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I look at these arguments, does god exist doesn't he exist, is there proof isn't there proof. I've had my own war with the church for personal reasons, but that doesn't mean that I don't believe in god, or worship in my own way.

But the proof of god scientifically or otherwise is irrelevant when it comes to anything. Some of you choose to not believe there's a god. You believe in empirical evidence, and the latest from the scientific journals. Others, believe that god exists. Those beliefs are all of the proof that anyone ever needs.

Frankly, I think its insulting to challenge someone's beliefs and faith based on your value systems and vice versa.

Does god exist, if you don't believe it, and you fashion your belief systems around that, good for you, no amount of poof to the contrary is going to change your minds. If you do believe in the god all mighty, then no scientific evidence is going to convince you otherwise, because you have faith that he exists.

IF and this is a BIG IF...if most theists chose to simply live their life without foisting their choice of God on the masses then I cant see a problem. You know...and I know..and most everyone reading this knows thats not possible. Foisting is part of the package for most.