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Old 01-12-2008, 04:54 PM   #241
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Originally Posted by flames85 View Post
it's only proof if you want to believe. try it.
you have never witnessed something you thought to be a miracle?
That isn't logical. If you WANT to believe, then everything can be proof. That's the point. In science there is no want or not want to believe, there is only evidence. The evidence has to work even if you don't want to believe.

There was a time when everyone wanted to believe the earth was flat, but eventually the evidence showed that it wasn't. People can still believe it's flat if they want.

I've been in evangelical Christian churches for 25+ years and I have never ever witnessed anything that I could say was a miracle.

And even if I had, anecdotal evidence isn't evidence. Your mind isn't reliable. Your memories can change, your perceptions are easily manipulated.

I know you probably won't but I'm going to recommend anyway that you read The Demon-Haunted World: Science as a Candle in the Dark by Carl Sagan. I can lend it to you if you on audio book if you want. All this way of thinking that we're trying to communicate to you about burden of proof and such is explained excellently in it. It's a great book about thinking about the world critically.
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