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Originally Posted by Thunderball
But who needs the argument... if you believe there's a 10 armed blue guy in the centre of the earth, go nuts. Who are atheists to tell believers they're wrong? Who are believers to tell atheists they're wrong?
That whole argument you hate is Pascal's Wager. Its been used to defend the existence of God, and recently, to promote the climate change agenda. Essentially, if God exists and you don't believe in him, the end result is way worse than if God doesn't exist and you believe in him. Therefore, I may as well believe in God just in case.... just like with Global Warming... if it does exist and we do nothing... the end result is way worse than if it doesn't exist and we go nuts trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
My burden of proof is only relevant if I'm trying to convert you. I'm not. I could care less what you believe in. I'm just opposed to both atheists and fanatical christians getting all aggressive in their agendas one way or the other.
Personally, I think the CP forums should ban religious arguments on this site altogether. They go nowhere and it just seems to get everyone's dander up since its such a volatile subject.
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I'm not trying to tell anyone that they are wrong, I just want to get my point across that to an outsider looking in, a belief in god can seem ridiculous and absurd, even though the theist may see nothing funny about it and believe it to be fact.
I do hate Pascal's Wager, but I hate irrationality even more so. I'm more inclined to buy into Global Warming than I am to god because there are facts to back it up. So, they aren't really the same, but I get your point. No, it's not 100% proof that Global Warming exists, but that goes back to my point about looking at situations using objectivity and rationality to determine the best solution.
I'm all about rationality. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. It absolutely boggles my mind that anyone can believe in the most extraordinary claim in history, that of an omnipotent, omniscient space daddy existing without even the tiniest shred of proof. It just drives me nuts. Especially in this day and age, where science has advanced to the point that it has. I just can't get my head around it.
(By the way, the Bible doesn't count as evidence. That would be the same as me saying that the Wizard of Oz exists and then using the yellow brick road as evidence to back up that claim.)
I know what you mean about banning these types of threads. But, even though they go absolutely nowhere, I still do enjoy them.