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Old 01-11-2008, 01:42 AM   #78
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Originally Posted by Schultzie View Post
I wish no one would use this argument again. Ever.

Here's an example:

What if I were to tell you that I believed that a magical pink elephant with wings lived in the centre of the earth. It could telepathically communicate with everyone on the planet, and even had the power to answer your prayers. Would you believe me? No? Why not? You can't prove that the elephant doesn't exist. Using this logic, there are a million things that you should believe in simply because they can't be dis proven. Goblins, unicorns, Zeus...you get my point.

The fact is is that no one (including atheists) can definitively disprove the existence of anything. That being said, we do have to look at these claims objectively and figure out the probability of said being existing based on evidence (or lack thereof), and just plain rationality and common sense.

While I'm on the subject, I'd also like to point out another flaw in your argument. The burden of proof rests on the shoulders of the person making the claim. Just as the burden would fall on me to prove the existence of the elephant, it also falls on you to prove the existence of your god. Neither I nor anyone else has any responsibility to disprove your claim.

I just had to get this one off my chest.
But who needs the argument... if you believe there's a 10 armed blue guy in the centre of the earth, go nuts. Who are atheists to tell believers they're wrong? Who are believers to tell atheists they're wrong?

That whole argument you hate is Pascal's Wager. Its been used to defend the existence of God, and recently, to promote the climate change agenda. Essentially, if God exists and you don't believe in him, the end result is way worse than if God doesn't exist and you believe in him. Therefore, I may as well believe in God just in case.... just like with Global Warming... if it does exist and we do nothing... the end result is way worse than if it doesn't exist and we go nuts trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.

My burden of proof is only relevant if I'm trying to convert you. I'm not. I could care less what you believe in. I'm just opposed to both atheists and fanatical christians getting all aggressive in their agendas one way or the other.

Personally, I think the CP forums should ban religious arguments on this site altogether. They go nowhere and it just seems to get everyone's dander up since its such a volatile subject.
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