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Old 01-08-2008, 02:31 AM   #7
Hack&Lube
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Originally Posted by Daradon View Post
Lamb, while spectator, dies to feed lions.

Crowd cheers.

I dunno. The lions are fed. The lamb would die in a farm anyway.

Maybe they offset the damage by donating to WWF?

Not nearly as bad as so much more out there.

China or North America.

This is silly. Aminals feed on other animals. Is it unfair for us to set it up. Hells ya! But is it weird? No. Is it outside the bounds of nature. No.

I must be missing something here. I'm a 'normal' animal rights activist.

By that I mean, I recognise people eat meat. I boycott companies and practices where animals are made to suffer abnormal amounts of pain or suffer a longer period of time and where animals are wasted.

But, let's start at the beginning folks.

One lamb per episode vs the 30,000 chickens per day at KFC?

Just cause you see or don't see it doesn't change it.

If you want to make a difference, look at waste. Not at hollywood.

I was kudosing a thread maker 3 weeks ago and now these stranger stories make it in.
You are one of those people for whom the ends are all that counts. However that KFC got in your bucket it doesn't matter to you. That chicken was going to die anyway...when in actuality that chicken lived a horrible life, was thrown around alive a factory by stressed out night workers, was chained by it's feet and dipped into a electrified water bath before being flash par-boiled alive to get rid of feathers. That's for food and the most efficient industrial process. Fine. I eat my KFC (prefer Chicken on the Way) without an iota of guilty conscience...But for crowds to take absolute pleasure in a young animal being ripped to shreds in an arena is something different isn't it?

Have you ever owned a pet? Felt a smidge of empathy for another living, sentient, feeling, conscious creature? A strong unified thread in much of the Endlösung der Judenfrage was the fact that the leadership did not have the capacity to feel this difference. The wholesale killing of human beings was to them just another industrial process with animals. That is where your logic ultimately leads.

Maybe we are an American Gladiator society but I thought we were over the Roman Gladiator society...or are we going to let footballers run their underground dog fights now? And if you actually read the article, this is not a hollywood show, I have no idea where you are going with that angle. It's a daily occurance at a Chinese Zoo. Western Zoos (while guilty of their own mistreaments and malpractices) teach children animal conservation and appreciation of nature. This zoo only teaches an appreciation of maximal carnage and cruel, heartless spectacle to further fuel a generation of children who have no hindrances in abusing nature among many other things if only for pecuniary gain and savage entertainment.

My own parents were in China a month ago. They saw such disgusting practices as "entertainment" in many places in China. They are accepted as commonplace. One popular act is to have fake "traditional chinese fisherman" sitting in rivers to entertain foreigners on boat tours who then have to tip these performers. These "fishermen" would have a flock of pelican like birds (chained together by invisible fishing wire so they can't escape). These fishermen would pretend they have mastered the art of getting these pelicans to fish for them when in fact, their gullets have been tied off (almost to the point of asphyxiation) so that they can barely breathe and never actually swallow. Then they will have a "net" under the water (that people aren't supposed to know is there) full of fish. They will throw these birds off their raft into the water and the starving thin birds will surface with fish and try desperately to swallow them but they can't since their necks are tied off and they literally choke until the performer removes the fish, gets his tips, then later throws back the fish.

So to your statement that either we are gods or we are animals. I guess we are animals then. Let's fire up some gas chambers and load up the batch fryers at KFC! It's all the same in the end! Doesn't matter what we show our children as respectable or what our society considers to be humane! Food on the plate, money in the pocket, and a 3rd reich to go!

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