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photon · 11-22-2007, 05:31 PM

One of the things that set Christianity apart in the first place.. it was exclusive. You believed in Jesus or you didn't get into heaven. That was pretty unique.

And the early Christian church was very preoccupied with correctness of beliefs rather than correctness of rituals, something else that set it apart, something else that was fairly unique.

That set up a situation where it was important for everyone to come to an agreed upon set of beliefs.. one had to "win". And given the huge variation of scripture, beliefs, and doctrine in the early church, plus the lack of almost any record of Jesus during Jesus' actual lifetime, how much of what we have was Jesus' actual beliefs and how much was just the doctrine that "won" through superior marketing and control?

So while I agree with the idea of staying true to the idea of a Jesus who professed self sacrifice and such, is that even what he taught?

11-22-2007, 05:31 PM	#294
photon The new goggles also do nothing. Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Calgary Exp:	One of the things that set Christianity apart in the first place.. it was exclusive. You believed in Jesus or you didn't get into heaven. That was pretty unique. And the early Christian church was very preoccupied with correctness of beliefs rather than correctness of rituals, something else that set it apart, something else that was fairly unique. That set up a situation where it was important for everyone to come to an agreed upon set of beliefs.. one had to "win". And given the huge variation of scripture, beliefs, and doctrine in the early church, plus the lack of almost any record of Jesus during Jesus' actual lifetime, how much of what we have was Jesus' actual beliefs and how much was just the doctrine that "won" through superior marketing and control? So while I agree with the idea of staying true to the idea of a Jesus who professed self sacrifice and such, is that even what he taught? __________________ Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position. But certainty is an absurd one.