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Originally Posted by 4X4
Hey, I have a friend who is christian. Never bothered me until about a month ago when I discovered that he indeed believes the earth is 7000 years old.
And as for the 'people oppress people, not religion', I respectfully disagree. The catholic church is entirely based on oppression. Whether you want to discuss their systematic oppression of women or whether you would rather discuss how they force their own priests into celebacy to retain their estate. How about the fact that they take and take and take from their often very poor followers to build giant buildings with with very little use or versatility. AND they all send money to a central organization (vatican) to pay for what exactly? Bibles? Ok.
So what is your argument here? That because it is people doing it, it is not religion's fault? So what is the point of religion? A moral guideline? A sense of hope? How can religion be good when it's good, but the fault of men when it is not doing good? That's a total cop out.
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1. I pay money every pay cheque to a central organization, in fear of jail time for what? Sponorship scandals? A war? Give me a break..
2. If anything the church does a good job on not being hyprocritcal for the most part...If you don't want to be celebate than don't be a priest, no one is forcing you to be. And if you do become a priest than you must agree with that rule...again how is that
oppression? How do they oppress anyone? Everyone one has the right not to follow their rules, with no fear of punishment. I could go to a mass tommorrow and not even put any money in the collection bowl and no one would bat an eye..i am not forced to do anything..trust me as someone who grew up in a catholic family and went to church until i was old enough to decide it wasnt for me...it was nothing but a positive experience, wouldnt change it for anything...Let me tell you, my mom and her mom aren't being oppress by the church.. You are a catholic woman and want to have an abortion? No one is stopping you..remeber its all about forgiveness..
It is not a total cop out champ, the point of religion is different for everyone...take out religion you will still have oppression...it isnt hard to understand that humans oppress humans...and justifications for that oppression isnt always religion...just like guns dont kill people, people do..same idea