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Old 11-10-2007, 05:25 PM   #117
RougeUnderoos
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Originally Posted by Bent Wookie View Post

I don't think anyone, that is applauding the use of the taser in this instance is, is blindly supporting police. Quite the contrary. They are able to read the article with skepticism. To realize that there is possible a lot more to the story. Even acknowledging that fact, there are several indicators in the story that would leave a 'reasonable person' to believe that the tasering was justified. Certainly it is not wrong to question the use of force. But, IMO, it is wrong to question it in the light of the article itself.
I'm pretty sure I'm media-savvy enough to read stories with some amount of skepticism.

I'm also skeptical enough to be a little skeptical when a bunch of guys start crowing immediately that what the cop did was justified when they don't know anything more than I do. So it works both ways.

The article certainly has a slant, I can see that, but that doesn't mean the exact opposite of what it says is true by default.

You know what this whole thing reminds me of? All the eye-rolling that went on when me and the other cop-haters were "skeptical" enough to think something was slightly amiss about those "protesters" in Quebec.

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I still don't get how you can turn the article itself into such an ever simplified statement as, ' A disabled senior citizen getting tasered twice...'. Do you honestly believe that's all it was. That is exactly why people think you are anti-cop. You have over-simplified it to fit what we perceive as your agenda. Further, you tend to ignore relevant facts that would lead you down a different path.
A disabled senior citizen was tasered twice. That's what happened, or that's at least a big part of the story. It's not oversimplified. But of course I don't believe that's all it was -- I never said that's all it was and I figured that was just sort of assumed. I know the cop didn't just walk up to some random old coot and zap him.

What do you perceive my agenda to be, by the way?

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Seriously, reread the story and pretend you are some guy walking to work and observed the whole thing. Keep in mind that I am willing to bet the old guy wasn't the most pleasant guy at the time.
I can see it going down two ways. 1) it was justified and he didn't have a choice but to use the weapon and 2) the cop handled the situation poorly and used the weapon improperly and over zealously.

It's #2 that appears to be the kicker. To even suggest that the guy might not have done everything perfectly makes me "anti-cop".

Anyway, the suggestion that I lack a skeptical eye because I'm questioning the conduct of law enforcement is actually kind of funny.
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