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Old 02-09-2005, 05:11 PM   #90
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@Feb 9 2005, 03:44 PM
That's some great logic there.

You're saying that if you were in charge, you'd punish him, but since you're not in charge he shouldn't be punished?#

WTF?

Can you please clarify your position, because as it's stated now, I can't make any sense of it at all.

Under the rules that he teaches it appears to me that he should be able to keep his job and not be fired.

However, because I disagree with the views of the AAC and University of Colorado that if it were up to me I would fire him.

Doesn't seem too complex.

Okay, so now we're back to the original arguement. Why would you fire him? What has he done that is so far beyond the realm of Acedemic Freedom that he should loose his job? This is a straigh question. You have alread stated that in this context he shouldn't be fired, Fine. But you said if you were his boss you'd fire him, Also fine. Now without telling me that you never said he should be fired, tell me why it is exactly that you would fire him if you were in charge?
In what I would classify as academic freedom he has over stepped his boundaries but that does not mean that he has in regards to the University of Colorado.

I don't think that academic freedom is a static thing and that different people would have different ideas of what should be included and what should not. [/b][/quote]
Can you please answer the question. I understand that you think what he has done has overstepped the bounds of acedemic freedom. What I want from you is an explination as to why exactly you think that? I'm beginning to think that it is merely the case that you disagree with him.

Please explain to me why you think a man with a PHD in Ethnic studies (and was the chair of the ethnic studies department) should not be allowed to express his view of the 9/11 attacks (a view that is shared by a great deal of people outside the US by the way, though I'd like to make it very clear that I'm not one of them), a subject which his credentials tend to indicate he is a much greater authority on than most people.
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