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Old 02-09-2005, 12:19 PM   #85
Mike Oxlong
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Originally posted by Agamemnon@Feb 9 2005, 06:55 PM
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This is not a racist comment this is fact. I can understand if he wants to keep that element out of his bar so that people who want to go in there and have a good time aren't afraid for their lives. I realize that not every Asian or Middle Eastern guy is going to stab someone but if they are dressed like Gangsters or "hoods" then they have to be smart about who they let in and who they don't.
I assume, then, that you have no problem with (or at least, understand) racial profiling at the entrance of Calgary businesses?

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They guy isn't running a business to be the United nations. He is running it to make money and provide a fun environment for people.
You're right, he's running a business. Just because you own a business doesnt' give you the right to discriminate based on race. No shoes/No service is a world apart from No Asians/No Blacks. There is a limit on how discriminatory you're allowed to be with your customers. Hang up a 'No Asians' sign in your store window and find out how fast the City (not to mention Province, Feds) gets on you. I'm betting fast.
If racial profiling allows me to have a drink and a good time in a safe environment where I am not going to get stabbed or punched or I have to worry about who I look at or bump into then Yes I am in favour of it.

I am not saying that he shouldn't let any Asians or Blacks in, what I am saying is that a group of them come to the door dressed in "gang" colors or similar clothes or guys who just generally look like trouble makers then they shouldn't let them in. Same goes for white guys as well. Unfortunately most of the stabbings aren't white guys.

He isn't hanging a no Asians sign out the front window. I have seen PLENTY of ethnic minorities at his clubs. In fact towards the end of the Drinks days it was mainly populated my ethnic minorities. That is when they started having a LOT of trouble with fights and stabbings and hence the reason they shut it down and opened up Tantra.

I just don't think he is as racist as everyone thinks, especially considering his major business partner in these clubs is a mediterranean/middle eastern guy himself.

People confuse racism with facts sometimes. If you have Asian guys doing the stabbings all over the city then you are going to be careful that doesn't happen in your club. It isn't racist, it is running a business.
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