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I like the system and I think it works quite well. For the most part of this thread it seems like a good chunk are too cheap to tip or are p*ssed that they don't get tipped in their jobs?

Of course I could be wrong.

In my case, yes you are wrong. I do tip when I eat out. I don't like the fact that it's part of society, but I'd rather tip than live in fear that some waiter might spit in my food. What a stupid system.

I don't get tipped in my job. But I don't expect to. If I do my job well I get a bonus from my employer. He's the one that decides how much I'm worth. Not my clients.

From what I've read in here, the people that are saying they have a problem with tipping aren't being cheap, or envious. Ama, for example, doesn't think it's right that customers determine how much someone is worth. That's the employer's job.

I do find it funny that the people in the industry on this board have so quickly jumped to the conclusion that someone believes tipping is wrong because they are cheap or jealous. Take a read at the arguments before you make that assumption.

The whole point is rubbish: If you are in decent retail job and are good at it you get a base wage plus commission.

You are only re-inforcing my point with this argument. If you work a good retail job your employer gives you a good commission. Your employer. Not your clients. So why does the restaurant business have to be any different than any other business? Why do I have to decide how much a waiter is worth? How the hell does that become my job, when there are people (aka: the employer) infinitely more capable of determining their worth than I am?