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Old 10-30-2007, 04:46 PM   #41
jolinar of malkshor
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Right... so why aren't we going after pimps instead of Johns? You're pretty much spelling out who's at fault (pimps), but then whole-heartedly support going after Johns?
The johns are just as much at fault as the pimps. They are the ones that are making the market for this activity. If they didn't demand this service, it would go out of business very quick.

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This isn't the John's fault though... if anything you're supporting the cops going after the one source of income these people have. What do you think these women do if they're not hooking? Join the secretarial pool? Become teachers?
You clearly have no concept of the issue at hand. The John's are the driving force behind this issue. Just like drug users are the driving force behind drug dealers. If there was no industry for these people there would be no need to lure young girls into the trade and keep them subjected. Of course there will always be people that fall into certain situations like this because of life circumstances. Removing the number of scum ball occupations such as this only increased their chance for intervention.

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What do you think will 'fix' hooking? A harsh crack-down policy on Johns? That's working really well on drugs so far...
This policy is part of a wider approach the community needs to take. Ultimately the community as a whole as to solve this problem not the government and that includes the drug issue and crime issues. The fact is solicitation is currently illegal and committing crimes has consequences. I never said once that this is best way to solves this problem but until the community as a whole decideds to do something about it, it is one of the few things that can be done to curtail it.


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Yes... the police do have no business in interfering with two consenting adults. If one adult is forced into the situation then it's no longer consenting, it's rape. Places like the Netherlands have legalized sex trade and everything seems consensual as far as I can tell... maybe (probably) the issue here is we're so backwards concerning sex legislation.
Well, by your statement most prostitution here would be considered rape. Also, if you don't think the Netherlands have many of the same social issues regard prostitution then you are wrong. There are benifits to legalizing it and regulating it but many of the same problems as far as the enterance into the trade are the same.

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I agree that hooking (as it currently stands legally) = bad... I just don't agree that taking Johns cars away = fixing the problem. At all.
Again, no one said this would fix the problem completely. However, if the public knew that there was a full time unit designated to crack down on John's with the possibility of loosing there vehicle, it would definately curtail the current problem.
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