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Old 10-26-2007, 10:10 PM   #129
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Originally Posted by driveway View Post
I wasn't trying to imply that it was supernatural, it is however a "physical phenomenon" for which there is no scientific explanation (beyond the very basic 'if you think you should get better, you might'). The same can be said for both Dark Energy and Dark Matter. These are physical phenomenon which can be shown to exist, but cannot be explained, ditto the origin of life. We know that life began somewhere, sometime, but we have no idea how, when, or where.
Eh? Try this link: http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?cha...1E83414B7F0000
The scientific explanation for the placebo effect is that the brain and nervous system have a profound effect on the rest of the body that can ameliorate or worsen the symptoms or even severity of illness or injury. You are confusing "explanation" with "complete understanding".

As far as dark matter and dark energy are concerned - in the first place, neither has been proven to exist; in the second case, these concepts are products of science, not ideas outside of science; and in the third place, if either does end up being proven to exist, this will be another affirmation of science, not of the supernatural. Lastly, there are several competing theories about the origins of life, and we have much more than a vague idea of how it came about.

My point may be more succintly put thusly: we know enough to be certain that we what do not know does not need the supernatural to explain it. If the universe does not include the supernatural, it does not include a god.
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