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Old 10-23-2007, 02:08 PM   #46
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Originally Posted by Flashpoint View Post
I see no difference between going into a store and sticking a DVD under your coat, and torrenting a movie. One, most of the adults on this site wouldn't dream of doing. The other, many of you have probably done without a second thought.

I have yet to encounter anyone who can tell me the difference between them.
One is theft, the other is copyright infringement. Two different parts of the law. EDIT: I'm late it seems

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Is it as pervasive as bit torrent? I would say no. BT is the pirate ship of choice for every noob out there. Hence it being in the crosshairs.
HTTP is FAR more prevalent than bittorrent. In fact the use of bittorrent to pirate stuff would be impossible without HTTP.

And HTTP is also the protocol of choice to transfer the majority of data that contains things like hate literature, child porn, etc.

If ISPs were serious about stopping it why don't they simply block access to the sites in question? Shaw could simply take a list of the torrent sites and make them all go to a page that says they don't allow access to that site.

Why don't they do that?

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Originally Posted by habernac View Post
There is no scarcity when you are talking about intellectual property, so arguments comparing physical property theft and intellectual property theft are misleading and incorrect.

Come on, Bobblehead. If you download a copy of a movie, the company that produced it is getting squat. That's stealing, period. No amount of technological babble is going to change that.
It's a different law, copyright infringement isn't theft. The net result from the point of view of the company may be similar (lost revenue), but in law it's not the same. And that assumes that people are downloading in lieu of purchasing, which isn't always the case.

DRM is collapsing, and CD sales, while up for a while, are going to collapse too because of DRM free distribution. The music industry still needs to evolve a new economic model.

There will always be people who copy, be it tape, CD's, whatever. The masses go with what's most convenient though and the music industry needs to recognize that.
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