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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
This one will bomb and bomb badly, the day and age of Star Trek is over and done with. the next generation movies with the exception of First contact were garbage. Voyager was terrible, Enterprise was terrible, Deep Space 9 was terrific but people didn't get it, and Next Generation pretty much bored me to tears.
Paramount has driven this franchise straight into the ground, and I doubt that there are enough Trekkies out there that will take the time to put down thier Klingon Version of Hamlet, stop playing with their dolls er collectibles and take time out of thier debate with a fellow trekkie about who was a better Captain Kirk or Picard to go to the Theater.
Nemesis was promoted as this huge leap forward for Trek with the writer of Gladiator at the helm and it was the first movie I walked out of since my girlfriend tried to convince me that TomCats with Jerry O'connell could be funny.
Just let it die already.
Star Trek doesn't need another shovel full of dirt on its face.
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I agree with you that DS9 (after Season 2) was the second best of all the series, first being TOS. I liked the TOS universe where the Federation was established, benevolent, positive, but not afraid to bend the rules and be aggressive as needed. It was a positive, but very human future. DS9 was an extension of this, and going to the point where the Federation was at the brink of defeat against a superior foe... winning required them to be very un-TNG. TNG was too "perfect", and I didn't like the perfect, preachy Federation with a pacifistic and socialist overtone. It was far too sterile. Voyager just stunk, and ENT had one too many stupid time travel plots and the prequel killing "Earth will be destroyed if we fail... but we all know they don't cause then there would be no TOS, TNG, etc."
The problem with Star Trek post-The Undiscovered Country is that the TNG cast was not a movie cast. They didn't have that something special. First Contact notwithstanding. Generations was a shameful display. Take the Kirk stunt away and its a glorified episode. Insurrection was probably a two-part episode script lying around, cause there was nothing impressive about it. The plots did not make up for the lack of star power or anything to attract the non-Star Trek fan.
Nemesis was perhaps the greatest failure of all, because even when they tried to go "big", it was ridiculous compared to its competition. The Stewart and Spiner show has no resonance outside of ST fans, and even then... Stuart Baird and John Logan created a horrible movie with rip-offs of previously successful Star Trek entries, and a generally ridiculous plot. Behind them was the ######ed duo of Berman and Braga. As well, there was no star power aside from Patrick Stewart. Tom Hardy was a pathetic Picard "clone".
Since then, the entire braintrust of Star Trek has been knocked on their ass. While JJ Abrams had made his share of crap, his writing team is good, and have shown they can treat pre-existing properties with respect. I'm cautiously optimistic. Leonard Nimoy did not sign up for Generations, stating he felt it was flat and superficial. He did, however, come out of retirement for this one. He has been surrounded with a deep and talented cast who (aside from Pegg, but I'm sure they can dye his hair) bear a close resemblance to the original crew. They casted a borderline A-list Hollywood actor as the villain, with rumors another actor of similar (or greater) standing has yet to be cast as a "Federation captain", likely Captain Pike, who Kirk would take over for.
If the rumors of showing the beginnings of NCC-1701 under Kirk, old Spock interacting with that against a well written and deep foe, and ending up with him and old Kirk at the end kicking back and riding into the sunset are true... this will be a solid movie.