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Old 09-28-2007, 08:53 AM   #77
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Originally Posted by evman150 View Post
If you cannot reproduce, your life has no purpose in the grand scheme of things, yes. But that is selling life short. One can still make themselves a great life independent of our evolutionary goal. But by not being able to reproduce, technically you're a failure as a human. Doesn't mean you can't still do a lot of good in the world though.
You believe that drivel that just came from head and some how found its way to the keyboard and onto this site?

Allow me to point out that ANY moron can have a child. It takes little for a man to stick his penis into some bimbo in heat, and with bad timing, impregnate the wench and propagate their DNA. Go to the mall for five minutes and observe the intellect of those pushing strollers or failing to control their offspring. You'll quickly come to the realization that Harvey Danger made a very astute cultural observation when they sang, "only stupid people are breeding". Darwin's theory was wrong. The strong does not survive and improve the herd, as genetics is all about regression to the mean. Procreating doesn't make you success as a human, since almost any animal can do the same thing, it's what you do after that fact that will define your success.

The greatest difference between humans, and the rest of the animals on earth, is the fact that we are self aware. We are cognizant of our environment and the impacts we have on said environment. We understand that we have a sphere of influence and are capable of manipulating it. Success as a human is using that sphere of influence to have an impact on our society, our culture, or our species. Depending on your moral flexibility and your base impulses, that sphere of influence can be recognized as positive or as negative.

On the positive side of the coin, Leonardo da Vinci never had children. Was he a failure as a human? Not a chance. He was arguably the greatest man who lived, providing major insights into all of the humanities (you know, the things that differentiate us from the animals) and the sciences. His contributions to culture and his impact on society, both while he was alive and after his death, had more of an impact than all the people who procreated during his life. Certainly he was successful as a human?

On the opposite side of that moral coin, Adolf Hitler never had children. Was he a failure as a human? Hitler was responsible for many heinous things, but the fact that he inspired a nation and turned them into a world power speaks a lot about his sphere of influence and his success at using this uniquely human characteristic. Hitler will always be associated with evil (through the lens of our cultural perspective anyways), but he was a massive success in being evil and achieving his end goals. He will be remembered for eternity because of this success. Certainly he was successful as a human?

You take a very strange position for a guy whose major/minor is Astronomy/Applied Ethics. Your determination of success/failure is completely out of alignment with a significant intelligence. With the gems of wisdom you've added in this thread I would reccommed you switch (immediately) to a major/minor of Animal Husbandry/Child Rearing. The dissonance in your choice of education and your base beliefs is not only striking, but very disturbing.
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