View Single Post
Old 09-25-2007, 09:16 PM   #31
BlackEleven
Redundant Minister of Redundancy
 
BlackEleven's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Montreal
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor View Post
There isn't the job oppertunities in Europe like there is in Canada for low skilled workers, so it isn't apples to oranges. Why would theygo to Germany when there is no work for them there?
What are you basing this on? Germany has a very comparable unemployment rate to Canada and several European nations have a lower rate than Canada. I'm interested in why you think Canada is such a desirable place for Europeans to try and illegally imigrate to when they have a multitude of countries that have econmies just as strong as Canada's that are closer, easier and in some cases, legal, to imgrate to and work in. Moreover, many of them have a lot more social benefits available than Canada, which you seem to think illegal immigrants are so anxious to tap into. And, more specifically, how is allowing entry to these countries without a visa is going to dramatically change the way things are now?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor View Post
Why don't all these people that come from the countries I mentioned go and stay in Europe? Well, a lot have and that is the problem. Europe has no real control on there immigration policies, they are being over run by refugees and non-skilled immigrants and Europe is widely used as a resting spot until they can come to North America.
Overrun by refugees? You say that like they're rats or insects or something. I don't understand your comtempt for refugees and immigrants.

And your resting spot arguement seems totally assinine to me. Why would refugees spend all their money and go through all the trouble of claiming refugee status and resettling in Europe, only to rest there and short time and then do it all over again to come to North America? I'm sorry, but that just seems ridiculous. I'd really like to see some corroborating evidence to support that claim.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor View Post
The point is Canada needs to maintain control of its own immigration policy and not be dictated to by Europe who has an terrible record of holding there own.
Europe is not dictating anything about Canadian immigration policy. They just want the right to enter the country without a visa, not the right to immigrate here. If they chose to stay and live here, that's just as illegal as it would be with a visa.

Quote:
Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor View Post
They do work, in large part....where did I say they don't?
The whole bit about we might as well just stamp their passports with a SIN.

Last edited by BlackEleven; 09-25-2007 at 09:22 PM.
BlackEleven is offline   Reply With Quote