*Update* haters. Canada is 1st in the medals standings!

[Bertuzzied]

Even though the US has 102121 medals they only lead with 7 gold medals.

Canada now has 6 with curling, women's hockey, and short track relay still due up. I think we can pass the US.

[MelBridgeman]

Noticed you left out men's hockey....

[jayswin]

Even though the US has 102121 medals they only lead with 7 gold medals.

Canada now has 6 with curling, women's hockey, and short track relay still due up. I think we can pass the US.


Who are the haters you're reffering to? Do you mean that people that are dissapointed and hoped we'd win more medals?

[Bertuzzied]

Noticed you left out men's hockey....

Come on now. Lets be realistic here.

Men's freestyle ski jumping gold might be available after that #1 ranked guy from Belarus crashed out.

[Bertuzzied]

Who are the haters you're reffering to? Do you mean that people that are dissapointed and hoped we'd win more medals?

Gold medals is all that counts. Who wants to be 2nd? or 3rd?

[zamler]

Gold medals is all that counts. Who wants to be 2nd? or 3rd?
They person that came in 4th?

[valo403]

Who are the haters you're reffering to? Do you mean that people that are dissapointed and hoped we'd win more medals?

What about the people who've been calling athletes losers and choke artists for the past week?

[Torture]

Duthie just said on CTV that the IOC determines the "winner" of the games by who has the most gold, so yeah...we're definitely still in this!

Gold medals is all that counts. Who wants to be 2nd? or 3rd?

http://eagercolin.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/ricky-bobby-if-you-aint-first.jpg

[Bertuzzied]

Duthie just said on CTV that the IOC determines the "winner" of the games by who has the most gold, so yeah...we're definitely still in this!




Yeah. I think that was always the case until NBC changed it for the 2008 olympics in Beijing. They made it total medals so the US would 'appear' to win, when in fact China had the most gold medals.

[JayP]

Even though the US has 102121 medals they only lead with 7 gold medals.

Canada now has 6 with curling, women's hockey, and short track relay still due up. I think we can pass the US.

If Canada wins gold in women's hockey, they'll win the most golds. If they don't, they still have a chance to catch the US, but it'll be tight.

Ski-cross was an event we were supposed to do well in, but winning gold is a step up from where they were projected (silver or bronze). That'll definitely help.

[Resolute 14]

Yeah. I think that was always the case until NBC changed it for the 2008 olympics in Beijing. They made it total medals so the US would 'appear' to win, when in fact China had the most gold medals.

Not really. Both Canadian and US media have always sorted by total medals. Europe tends to sort by golds.

[Papi34]

Not really. Both Canadian and US media have always sorted by total medals. Europe tends to sort by golds.
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee50/kurtenblog/bobbummer.jpg

Although i agree..

[Ace Handy]

Not really. Both Canadian and US media have always sorted by total medals. Europe tends to sort by golds.

If we do get the most Gold, Canada will say that the winner should be decided by most Gold. The U.S. will say the winner should be decided by most medals.

[vicphoenix13]

Anyone watching Pardon The Interruption the last couple days? Dan "the ######' LeBetard of the Miami Herald is saying some really ignorant things about Canada. Today, he's talking about how stinky Canada's medal total is with nine medals. Apparently, he forgot to include last nights gold medal. If your going to rip Canada, at least get the medal total correct. But yesterday's Canada bashing takes the cake. LeBetard said that Canada losing to America in ice hockey is like America losing to Canada in basketball. Such a ridiculous statement really makes me wonder how this clown is a sports writer. Did LeBetard ever consider that the U.S. hockey team has all NHL players while the Canadian basketball team is entirely made up of Euro League players?

[Hemi-Cuda]

Anyone watching Pardon The Interruption the last couple days? Dan "the ######' LeBetard of the Miami Herald is saying some really ignorant things about Canada. Today, he's talking about how stinky Canada's medal total is with nine medals. Apparently, he forgot to include last nights gold medal. If your going to rip Canada, at least get the medal total correct. But yesterday's Canada bashing takes the cake. LeBetard said that Canada losing to America in ice hockey is like America losing to Canada in basketball. Such a ridiculous statement really makes me wonder how this clown is a sports writer. Did LeBetard ever consider that the U.S. hockey team has all NHL players while the Canadian basketball team is entirely made up of Euro League players?

didn't we beat the Americans in that world baseball championship a few years ago? that's a more apt comparison

[Papi34]

It would be the equivalent of Canadas baseball team beating the americans. oops that happened

[Infamous1]

they should edit the own the podium website to say they meant most gold medals.

[valo403]

Anyone watching Pardon The Interruption the last couple days? Dan "the ######' LeBetard of the Miami Herald is saying some really ignorant things about Canada. Today, he's talking about how stinky Canada's medal total is with nine medals. Apparently, he forgot to include last nights gold medal. If your going to rip Canada, at least get the medal total correct. But yesterday's Canada bashing takes the cake. LeBetard said that Canada losing to America in ice hockey is like America losing to Canada in basketball. Such a ridiculous statement really makes me wonder how this clown is a sports writer. Did LeBetard ever consider that the U.S. hockey team has all NHL players while the Canadian basketball team is entirely made up of Euro League players?

This is pretty much why he's a sports writer. He's enough of a total tool that people read his stuff either because a) they are also tools, b) they enjoy making themselves angry, or c) they like to laugh at his expense.

Personally, whenever his face pops up on PTI I change the channel.

[Hammertime]

Mid-Olympic re-branding: Own the top step of the podium

[mykalberta]

It would be the equivalent of Canadas baseball team beating the americans. oops that happened

It would be the equivelent of mens basketball beating USA basketball.

[Shazam]

Mid-Olympic re-branding: Own the top step of the podiumI can live with that.

[You Need a Thneed]

Both curling Teams
Both Hockey Teams
Both Long Track Team Pursuit Teams
Both Short Track Relay Teams
Womens Bobsled
Men Parallel GS Snowboard.
Men 500m Short Track
Women 1000m Short Track

Canada has a legitimate chance to win Gold in all of those events, and will almost certainly win several of them. That's still 12 events where Gold is a possibilty - and that 's counting out longshot contenders that could win.

[Smell My Finger]

That ski cross was awesome to watch.

[Joborule]

Own the Gold, I like it.

[Red Ice Player]

Anyone watching Pardon The Interruption the last couple days? Dan "the ######' LeBetard of the Miami Herald is saying some really ignorant things about Canada. Today, he's talking about how stinky Canada's medal total is with nine medals. Apparently, he forgot to include last nights gold medal. If your going to rip Canada, at least get the medal total correct. But yesterday's Canada bashing takes the cake. LeBetard said that Canada losing to America in ice hockey is like America losing to Canada in basketball. Such a ridiculous statement really makes me wonder how this clown is a sports writer. Did LeBetard ever consider that the U.S. hockey team has all NHL players while the Canadian basketball team is entirely made up of Euro League players?

He's the same tard that claimed Steve Nash won NBA NVP due to racism. His hatred of Canadians is well documented.

[hwy19man]

Three points for a gold, two for a silver, and one for a bronze is how some networks calculate the medal standings. Under that formula, Canada is in 4th place.

[zarrell]

Three points for a gold, two for a silver, and one for a bronze is how some networks calculate the medal standings. Under that formula, Canada is in 4th place.


I'd prefer 10 points for gold, zero for every other loser. Gold is all that matters.

[Bertuzzied]

Maybe they can go by the current metal price per ounce.

[FurnaceFace]

Yeah. I think that was always the case until NBC changed it for the 2008 olympics in Beijing. They made it total medals so the US would 'appear' to win, when in fact China had the most gold medals.

If you look at the official Beijing standings they all list China over The US due to the gold count. I can see either argument but the more I think about it the more gold count makes sense as that means you won the event.

[chalms04]

Maybe they can go by the current metal price per ounce.
I like it!

[d_phaneuf]

If you look at the official Beijing standings they all list China over The US due to the gold count. I can see either argument but the more I think about it the more gold count makes sense as that means you won the event.

BBC rankings
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/olympics/medals_table/default.stm (by golds)

NBC rankings
http://www.2008.nbcolympics.com/medals/2008standings/index.html (by total medals)

someone may have an ulterior motive??? maybe?!?!

I will go with the IOC, the BBC, and everyone else

over NBC's fuzzy logic to put the US 1st

[Hack&Lube]

Maybe they can go by the current metal price per ounce.

Olympic golds are sadly just gold plated. Therefore, the states has more value in total metal with all the silvers.

[FurnaceFace]

Funny, when I first saw the Beijing totals, I noted the site was .cn so I thought it was the Chinese at first who were bending things to fit their agenda. I then checked other sites and noted that was the method they all used.

[Mad Mel]

If we win the most golds, I propose the following slogans:

Canada: We're good at being the best!
USA: We're good at being pretty good!

[CalgaryFlamesFan123]

Personally, I care only about Gold medals; you know, as in "I got Gold because I WON the competition"

So, with that said, Go Canada!
If they get into top 3 rankings with Gold, I'll be happy.
But aim for #1 though!

And unlike the &*&( media, I will never put pressure on them. Winning for themselves comes BEFORE winning for Canada.

[Hemi-Cuda]

honestly i never get that excited to see a Canadian win a silver or bronze medal. sure the hardware is nice i guess, but seeing them win gold is so much more exciting and when in come cases they're so close to getting gold (like the snowboard cross guy) it just feels like defeat to get silver

[GGG]

When canada always seemed to be higher in the rankings when it was done by total medals I thought total medals was more fair. Now that Canada is doing better in golds I think golds is far more fair.


As a side note if you look at our 2009 world championship results other then Morrison and Hollingsworth we are basically matching medal for medal or better. So anyone saying either the total number or colors are disappointing really were expecting a lot. Olympic results are usually quite closely correlated with the previous world champs.

[SebC]

If we win the most golds, I propose the following slogans:

Canada: We're good at being the best!
USA: We're good at being pretty good!Even if we just come close:

Canada: We're pretty good at being the best!
USA: We're the best at being pretty good!

For symmetry...

[Mad Mel]

^ haha, yeah, I like that better.

[Sylvanfan]

So out of the medals Canada has won so far how many of these were medal sports in 1988? Nesbit's speed skating medal, and the Ice Dance gold from Moir and Virtue are the only two I think. Still I love seeing the Canadians winning a few gold medals. I'm happier to see Canada with more golds than any other medals, and I'd rather have our current set of medals than have no gold and 22 silver and bronze.

[TheyCallMeBruce]

Gold also gets your country's national athem played. This is the one thing I don't mind having as much as possible.

[3 Justin 3]

If Canada gets more Golds than the USA (real possibility), then I would be ecstatic.

Gold is way more important than overall medal count. Gold = Winner, Silver = Loser, Bronze = Participant. Canada having more golds than both bronze AND silver combined goes to show how much more superior we are to the USA. 10 bronzes, LOL. Give me a break, you have like 5 people in each event.

[Cactus Jack]

During the Olympic games it likely would be prudent to compile the standings based on the rules of, I don't know, let's say, the International Olympic Committee. Eat it NBC.

[chalms04]

Tied for the top!

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[worth]

Own the middle of the podium.

[Bertuzzied]

We are #1!

[HOOT]

they should edit the own the podium website to say they meant most gold medals.

I thought that's what it meant anyways. :bag:

[Rhetts_the_Best]

We our performing better than USA pfft..

We have 30 million people they have 300 million
enough said!

[Ducay]

My only concern is that the VanOC website lists medal count by total, not golds

[megatron]

Here's the BBC medal count (by gold):

Canada is 3rd and the US is 2nd:

http://winterolympics.external.bbc.co.uk/medals/2010-standings/index.html

[frostiex]

If we do get the most Gold, Canada will say that the winner should be decided by most Gold. The U.S. will say the winner should be decided by most medals.

To bad there are no medals for 4-5th finishes...or else we will win...so in reality...some of our athletes are still choke artists...:bag:

[burn_this_city]

Poor Finland only has 1 medal.

[Bertuzzied]

Poor Finland only has 1 medal.

Not for long...

and they have kiira korpi so it's all good.

[FurnaceFace]

To bad there are no medals for 4-5th finishes...or else we will win...so in reality...some of our athletes are still choke artists...:bag:

You really won't let that go will you? Must be nice living in that stress free zero mistake bubble.

[JayP]

To bad there are no medals for 4-5th finishes...or else we will win...so in reality...some of our athletes are still choke artists...:bag:

The American athletes winning bronze instead of gold isn't a choke at all, right?

[fundmark19]

germans win gold canada falls back to second :(

[Erick Estrada]

What's with the stupid thread title?

[Bunk]

Poor Finland only has 1 medal.

Finland and Japan are having horrible olympics for them.

[Bunk]

If Canada gets more Golds than the USA (real possibility), then I would be ecstatic.

Gold is way more important than overall medal count. Gold = Winner, Silver = Loser, Bronze = Participant. Canada having more golds than both bronze AND silver combined goes to show how much more superior we are to the USA. 10 bronzes, LOL. Give me a break, you have like 5 people in each event.

So by your account:
Kristina Groves = loser
Upperton/Brown = losers
Ladies Short Track = losers
Marriane St. Gelais = loser (double loser because she got silver in relay too)
Mike Robertson = loser
Jenn Heil = loser!

I wish I could be as big a loser as them.

[fundmark19]

you can if you quit your full time job and train for 8-12 years and try real hard!

[LockedOut]

US has one more gold than us for about an hour more.

[Bertuzzied]

Canada is now all alone in 1st! 10 golds. Tied for the highest ever with the 1984 communist boycotted Summer Olympics in LA.

[TSXCman]

Even though the US has 102121 medals they only lead with 7 gold medals.

Canada now has 6 with curling, women's hockey, and short track relay still due up. I think we can pass the US.

I have to assume its been said 102121 times.

first in gold.

you are not right.

Who's hating also?

[JohnnyB]

this is really adding even more importance to the gold medal game.

[Five-hole]

this is really adding even more importance to the gold medal game.

Yep. Going by number of golds, that game could very well decide the winner of the Olympics. Imagine that.

[The Goon]

I've never heard before that any one country "wins" the Olympics. I've heard the medal table and standings being referred to, but the team with the most medals isn't the winner.

Also, as stated elsewhere, different countries will put their own spin on the results. That way, everyone wins.

[transplant99]

Put it this way...the USA, as of Saturday morning, has 34 total medals....but dont lead in gold...so do you think they would consider that anything but a huge success?

In 20 previous games they had a total of 216 medals...or 11 per games. They have tripled their average this time. Gold or not, a massive improvement.

Canada should be quite proud as well as their average coming in was 6 medals per games. They will have quadrupled that total when all is said and done after tomorrow.

Awesome stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

[browna]

this is really adding even more importance to the gold medal game.

Also, the Canadian long track men are in the pursuit final against the US today. One, or the other, get gold in that event too.

[Mirajj]

I've never heard before that any one country "wins" the Olympics. I've heard the medal table and standings being referred to, but the team with the most medals isn't the winner.

Well, the point of the Olympics is to figure out which countries athletes genitals are bigger than the other countries, don't you know. Of course, someone has to 'win' the Olympics. The point to spending billions of dollars is to give one country the right to (Nelson voice) "Ha ha" at the other countries...

:rolleyes:

[pepper24]

Good feat by the Canadians. I never expected them to lead in the medal count but getting top 3 I'd be happy with. Being first in golds would also be great as well but I think medal count is the better assessment of how your country has done.

Go Canada!

[pepper24]

Canada should be quite proud as well as their average coming in was 6 medals per games. They will have quadrupled that total when all is said and done after tomorrow.

Awesome stuff.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-time_Olympic_Games_medal_table

Interesting stuff. That 6 medal average is greatly schewed from past Olympics when the Canadians didn't perform well. Every since around the 1998 Olympics the Canadians have taken off. It probably means that from the 1988 Olympics and earlier that we had less than 6 medals on average.

The reason? The Canadians are exceling at new Olympics sports such Curling, ski-cross, snowboard-cross, freestyle skiing, women's hockey, short track speed-skating, skeleton racing etc.

If you take away long-track speed skating (mainly the women), figure skating and women's bobsled what other medals are not new sports?

[Resolute 14]

Interesting stuff. That 6 medal average is greatly schewed from past Olympics when the Canadians didn't perform well. Every since around the 1998 Olympics the Canadians have taken off. It probably means that from the 1988 Olympics and earlier that we had less than 6 medals on average.

Before 1998, actually. And as you noted, the explosion in events added to the Olympic program since 1992 has been huge for us:

1924: 1-0-0=1
1928: 1-0-0=1
1932: 1-1-5=7
1936: 0-1-0=1
1948: 2-0-1=3
1952: 1-0-1=2
1956: 0-1-2=3
1960: 2-1-1=4
1964: 1-0-2=3
1968: 1-1-1=3
1972: 0-1-0=1
1976: 1-1-1=3
1980: 0-1-1=2
1984: 2-1-1=4
1988: 0-2-3=5
1992: 2-3-2=7 (4 medals in events that existed in 1988, 3 in new events)
1994: 3-6-4=13 (7 medals in "classic" events, 6 in new)
1998: 6-5-4=15 (7 classic, 8 new)
2002: 7-3-7=17 (6 classic, 11 new)
2006: 7-10-7=24 (10 classic, 14 new)
2020: 10-7-4=24* (7 classic, 17 new)

*Includes three medals of unknown colour; possibility of an eighth medal in a "classic" sport (four-man bobsleigh)

[The Goon]

Well, the point of the Olympics is to figure out which countries athletes genitals are bigger than the other countries, don't you know. Of course, someone has to 'win' the Olympics. The point to spending billions of dollars is to give one country the right to (Nelson voice) "Ha ha" at the other countries...

:rolleyes:
Given that the majority of our medals have been won by women, I really hope there's not a correlation with genital size.

[valo403]

Interesting stuff. That 6 medal average is greatly schewed from past Olympics when the Canadians didn't perform well. Every since around the 1998 Olympics the Canadians have taken off. It probably means that from the 1988 Olympics and earlier that we had less than 6 medals on average.

The reason? The Canadians are exceling at new Olympics sports such Curling, ski-cross, snowboard-cross, freestyle skiing, women's hockey, short track speed-skating, skeleton racing etc.

If you take away long-track speed skating (mainly the women), figure skating and women's bobsled what other medals are not new sports?

That's obviously part of it, but the other big thing that has impacted Canadian medal growth is the legacy of the 88 games. The infrastructure left in place enabled Canada to take on a leading role in a number of sports and helped attract new athletes to various sports. Without the bobsled track in Calgary it's doubtful that the bobsled and skeleton programs are where they are, same goes for the impact of the oval on speed skating. The US is getting similar benefits from the Salt Lake games.