All-time Calgary Flames Mini-Draft - Workshop Thread

[tvp2003]

Welcome to the CP ALL-TIME CALGARY FLAMES MINI-DRAFT Workshop Thread :)

10 teams, 6 rounds. Pick your all-time Flames starting lineup:

G -
D -
D -
F -
F -
F -

For draft purposes, I won't differentiate between LW, RW and C, although a balanced line will never hurt come playoff time (see below). All players must have played at least one NHL regular season game with the Calgary Flames (i.e. no Atlanta Flames, no preseason, no prospects, etc.). PLAYERS WILL BE ASSESSED BASED ON WHAT THEY ACCOMPLISHED IN CALGARY (i.e. you can't pick Grant Fuhr and get the guy who won five cups, only the older, washed up version).

I will attempt to continuously update the thread title and draft board; the thread title will display the next 3 picks, so if you see your name it's either your turn or pretty close. Time limit is 24 hours for this draft.


List of participants (draft order will be a reverse snake, TBD via random draw):
1. tvp2003
2. GirlySports
3. JerzeeGirl
4. Prototype
5. WindomURL
6. HalifaxDrunk
7. StrayBullet
8. czure32
9. Aeneas
10. Jagger


RULES:


No trades. It's a mini draft with only 6 picks each :ph34r:

No switching. There are no categories so I'm thinking most players will only have one position.

When you are selecting please state in BOLD letters your pick and his position. Done and done. Feel free to brag about who you picked and why he'll make your team the CP Cup Champion (see below).

When it's your turn you have 24 hours to make your pick. After 24 hours the draft will continue on until you come back and pick. Your name will have brackets around it in the thread title. If your turn is coming up and you will be away, PM me your top 3 choices (in order of preference) and I'll pick whoever is available for you (if you see a name in the thread title with a * beside it, that means they have submitted their pick to the commish).

In order to add more depth to the rosters, I'll be adding a "supplemental" draft at the end for UFA's... depending on who's left, each team will be allowed to pick 2-3 more players, so you'll have a chance to add some more grit, toughness, character, leadership, etc without having to put him in your starting 6. These supplemental picks will be first come, first served, when UFA season opens (hopefully at a mutually agreed upon time).

Playoffs: In order to determine a winner, I will do up an 8 team playoff (based on the top 8 teams, by vote or otherwise). Each game will then be played out, with the winner determined by me (including my personal game recap) or else by vote (again, with my personal game recap. Okay, I'm a loser). The winner will be crowned CP Cup Champion. Yay.

Post any questions in case I don't know what I'm doing :whistle:



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Original Post:

I was looking through some of these CP Draft threads and thought it might be interesting to do an actual hockey player draft, but with all-time Flames. The categories could be something like 2 goalies (starter and backup), 4 d-men (1-2 pairing and depth pairing), and 6 forwards (scoring line and scoring/checking/energy line). That would make 12 selections per team, maybe 12 teams in total?

P.S. I've never done one of these but I guess the rules would be the same as the other drafts (i.e. trading), although switching categories probably won't work since each player only has one category.

P.P.S. Not sure if this should have went on the Flames Forum instead, but I thought I'd post here in case there was an unwritten rule that all "draft" threads had to be put here...

Any thoughts?!?

[rubecube]

We could call it "The chris_lindberg Draft".

[RougeUnderoos]

Your going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel once you get down past, say, the top 100 Flames, and then you have to go all the way to 144.

If I were involved in this, which I'm not, I'd want to draft a LW, C, RW, D, D, G.

You could probably pick a winner for this one too, if you are so inclined.

[tvp2003]

We could call it "The chris_lindberg Draft".

We may or may not want to include current Flames prospects on the list :D (I would suggest the latter)

Your going to be scraping the bottom of the barrel once you get down past, say, the top 100 Flames, and then you have to go all the way to 144.

If I were involved in this, which I'm not, I'd want to draft a LW, C, RW, D, D, G.

You could probably pick a winner for this one too, if you are so inclined.

Yeah, that's what I was concerned with. With 12 teams, that would mean 24 goalies, so I thought that was the max we would want. Skaters might be a little easier, although you'll probably get some obscure names in the late rounds. Maybe a starting 6, plus a reserve goalie, d-man and forward?

[FanIn80]

Along this vein, I've often thought that an all-time NHL draft would be a great idea.

...and, in the interest of getting carried away, why not have a series of polls at the end to simulate a playoff season, with an eventual CP NHL Draft winner?

Obviously, the teams would have to be small so the draft moved realatively quickly.

I'd break it down like this:
- 20 Teams (10 teams, 2 Conferences)
- 14 Rounds (C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G, Coach)
- 12 Teams make the playoffs (decided by the top 16 vote-getters in a poll at the end)
- 1st Round: Top 2 teams in each conference get a bye, other 4 teams pair off with appropriate seeding
- 2nd Round: 2 previous round winners face the bye teams
- 3rd Round: 2 previous round winners face each other
- 4th Round: Finals (conference-winning teams face each other)

Each playoff round would just be a week-long poll. Either informal, where people just post their votes, or a formal one with checkboxes. Up to the mods, since it would be work for them to set everything up.

Anyhoo... that's my idea for a hockey draft. Hopefully this isn't too much of a hijack. I think it's pretty much similar to the "Flames Draft" idea, but there aren't really that many Flames worth drafting.

[tvp2003]

^^^ Actually, my first idea was to do an all-time NHL draft, or perhaps just a NHL draft with only current players :) However, since this is a Flames board, I thought an all-Flames draft might be a little more appropriate...

I'll await some more feedback before deciding on whether to do a Flames one (which begs the question, how does one "declare" a draft... just start a new thread asking for participants?!?

[Superflyer]

If you want to start a draft you have a "Workshop" thread, which this could be. That is mainly used to find participants and smooth out the rules.
Once you have enough people and the rules are agreed on to the majority then you start a new thread for the draft itself.

[Aeneas]

Instead of breaking them down only by F, D or G; or LW, RW, C etc; why not you have to draft a specific skill.

Skater
Slapshot
Wrist shot
Body checker
Fighter
Passer
Defensive forward
Defensive defencman

etc.

Just to get more categories.
Just a thought.

[GirlySports]

Ooops I didn't see this thread when i started my hockey draft thread.
If you want an all-time draft I'll run it and you can join in my workshop thread.

If you want to do a Calgary thread than can I play? :)

[Superflyer]

Sure sure you just didn't like someone moving in on your draft territory eh? Just could not stand the fact that someone might be running one besides you, well guess what you may be the draft queen but maybe it is about time someone knocked you off your throne.
Not me you are to powerful but someone.

[tvp2003]

LOL... no worries. I think I'll do a "mini-draft" (Flames only) after the all-time hockey draft is finished...

Yes you can play :)

[GirlySports]

LOL... no worries. I think I'll do a "mini-draft" (Flames only) after the all-time hockey draft is finished...

Yes you can play :)

Are you sure? All-time Hockey draft could take months.
You can start anytime, people are used to 10 drafts going on at once :)

[tvp2003]

Are you sure? All-time Hockey draft could take months.
You can start anytime, people are used to 10 drafts going on at once :)

Really? Okay, maybe I'll update the original post and get my mini-Flames draft going with this as the workshop thread...

Then I will take over the entire CP Draft Empire... bwa ha ha!

:D

[GirlySports]

Cool. Save a spot for me :)

[tvp2003]

Okay, first post is updated, now I just need 10 more teams.

P.S. I'm heading out to the game tonight so I won't be checking this thread until I get back...

[JerzeeGirl]

I'm in if you'll have me!

Don't know if my team will rule the rest but I hope it'll be respectable!

How are the finals going to be played once the teams are selected? Do I smell some NHL2K9 recaps? ;)

[Prototype]

I'll give er a go.

[tvp2003]

How are the finals going to be played once the teams are selected? Do I smell some NHL2K9 recaps? ;)

That would be the smart and/or cool way to do it. I'm always open for suggestions. However, it's not as fun as me analyzing each of rosters and running through the thousands of possible outcomes in my head to determine a winner :ph34r:

[WindomURL]

Another draft?!?!? Gawd, jeez, holy.... Yeah I'll join!

[JerzeeGirl]

Another draft?!?!? Gawd, jeez, holy.... Yeah I'll join!

Like you could resist the lure of another draft.....talk about a very twistable rubber arm.....:p

[HalifaxDrunk]

I'll play in this one too.

[tvp2003]

List is updated... 6 more spots to go :)

I was thinking last night and depending on the quality of players left when we get to pick 72, we might want to throw in a UFA dispersal draft at the end to add some depth to the rosters. Nothing formal, just claim whatever "x" number of players still available (that way you get to pick your favorite obscure player and not have to burn a spot in your "starting" six).

[StrayBullet]

In there!!!

[czure32]

with the reduced picks I think Ill give this one a go, provided theres still room

[tvp2003]

Still looking for 4 more teams... c'mon people, it's an easy draft with only 6 rounds until we declare a winner :)

[Aeneas]

Why not? I can handle four drafts at once.

[tvp2003]

Any others?!? Just need three more teams and we can start making picks!

[WindomURL]

MattyC? you missed the all-time players draft, here's your chance!

Locke, this could be a safe draft for you. Radulov has never been a Flame, so there's one less chance of "that kind of pick."

[StrayBullet]

A Calgary Flames forum and we can't scrum up a few more joiners for an All-Time Flames Draft? -- The irony.

[tvp2003]

A Calgary Flames forum and we can't scrum up a few more joiners for an All-Time Flames Draft? -- The irony.

I would post this on the main Flames forum to get more interest, but I figure the draft would run smoother if I limited it to people who actually read this part of the OT forum...

So, are you in?!? You know you want to... :D

If we don't get any more players, should I cap it at 9 or 10?

[WindomURL]

Maybe set a deadline. Some people may be procrastinating, and you can motivate them to act.

[StrayBullet]

I would post this on the main Flames forum to get more interest, but I figure the draft would run smoother if I limited it to people who actually read this part of the OT forum...

So, are you in?!? You know you want to... :D

If we don't get any more players, should I cap it at 9 or 10?

Wait a minute.... Was I not counted for this draft? -- Because I definitely wanted in.

[Jagger]

Ok. Since nobody else is jumping in, I'll play to help make up the numbers.

[tvp2003]

List updated to include StrayBullet and Jagger :)

If nobody else joins this weekend, I'll impose a deadline for the last spot and then we can get down to business...

[WindomURL]

Wait a minute, you already had StrayBullet listed. So we now have 10, with 2 open spots.

[HalifaxDrunk]

Wait a minute, you already had StrayBullet listed. So we now have 10, with 2 open spots.

Straybullet's team is gonna be so bad he has to pick 2.

[WindomURL]

Does that also mean he will AK himself twice in the 2nd round? ;)

[StrayBullet]

I'm more than willing to pick the All-Time Worst Flames Team for the integrity of this draft. ....And submit picks late/tardy for every turn.

[tvp2003]

D'oh... sorry for the confusion :ph34r:

Unless anyone objects, I don't have a problem doing this with only 10 teams... if anyone else wants to join this draft, PLEASE DO SO BY 12:00 pm MST TOMORROW (Monday). After 12:00, I'll use that random draw thingy to set up the draft order and we'll be off and running :)

P.S. In order to add more depth to the rosters, I'll be adding a "supplemental" draft at the end for UFA's... depending on who's left, each team will be allowed to pick 2-3 more players, so you'll have a chance to add some more grit, toughness, character, leadership, etc without having to put him in your starting 6. I said this would only be a 6 round "mini" draft so I'm thinking these supplemental picks will be first come, first served, hopefully when UFA season opens at a mutually agreed upon time.

[tvp2003]

Sign-up is now CLOSED... thanks to those who have agreed to participate. We'll go ahead with 10 teams, with the top 8 (determined by vote or otherwise) making the playoffs. I'll put together a separate draft thread shortly; in the meantime, here is the draft order, determined by random draw:



List Randomizer

There were 10 items in your list. Here they are in random order:

Aeneas
GirlySports
czure32
StrayBullet
Prototype
JerzeeGirl
WindomURL
HalifaxDrunk
Jagger
tvp2003
Timestamp: 2009-01-05 19:48:04 UTC



As an aside, I was hoping I didn't get the first overall pick so that it didn't look like I rigged the whole draft. Woohoo, lucky me :D

[WindomURL]

I've never been so in the middle!

Snake draft huh? I feel for the ones next to the beginning/end (Girly and Jagger) because it sucks being there.

[Prototype]

2nd draft right in the middle again.

[HalifaxDrunk]

2nd draft right near the end again.

[Aeneas]

Are we drafting in this thread or strating a new thread?

Either way I will post here to start.

There have been so many great Flames over the years. So many that I would happily pick first. Sometimes we view the more recent Flames as the better ones, we forget just how good some of those old guys were. Despite saying that I will draft a Flame who is current, who is far from done, and who I think we will look back 30 years from now and say,

"He was the best of all time."

Team Pelawa-Renaud is thrilled to select a captain for all time, #12,

Jarome Iginla

Obviously in one of the F positions. More than just points, Iginla is a leader, a physical force, a great sport, a fine example, and a great citizen.

I won't list his statistics, as for one we all are aware of them; but secondly what Iginla brings to the table is worth so much more than that.

[czure32]

Are we drafting in this thread or strating a new thread?


I'll put together a separate draft thread shortly; in the meantime, here is the draft order, determined by random draw:


pretty sure tvp is planning on creating a seperate thread :whistle:
cant go wrong with Iggy as number one though, as by the end of his career, hell, by the end of his current contract, there will be no question that he is the greatest calgary flame of all time

[Aeneas]

Oops. I generally only read 8-9 words out of any given post.
Less if there are instructions.

[GirlySports]

Haha you're too fast! I'll wait for the new thread since I haven't made up my mind yet :)

[tvp2003]

I figured it would be best to start a new thread, which I will be posting shortly :) Please re-post your first pick in that thread -- it takes a little bit of a drama out of it but Central Scouting had him rated pretty high anyways :D

[WindomURL]

Nice team name, Aeneas!