Have I Turned Into My Parents?

[Jack]

I just don't get most of the music that comes out these days. So little of it I actually like. The songs I do like however, don't seem to compare to any of the classics from 10 years ago and before that.

From the time I was teenager I've been very conscientious about not turning into what my parents are/were - People who just don't get today's music.


However, inevitably I feel like I've become part of what typically happens to people as they get older - Like my parents, I don't get it anymore. They used to say "today's music is crap" and lately I've been feeling the same way. Although, I've refrained from saying so just because I don't want to be like most people that get older.

Have I become out of touch or is the music these days not nearly as good as in the past?

Music isn't nearly as important as it used to be to me and perhaps that's part of the problem?

[rbochan]

Welcome to adulthood.

Now... GET OFF MY LAWN!

[Cheese]

Tastes change. I still like everything I listened to in my youth, but have added many different flavors to the pot...so to speak.
I think the difference with the music off the 90s or early 2000s was the influence of Rap and Hip Hop. I dont think many adults want their own children to be influenced by that crap...hence you have moved on.
You tend to get less angry the older you get. :rolleyes::whistle::)

[Phaneuf3]

Have I become out of touch or is the music these days not nearly as good as in the past?
In my personal experience, even when I was younger I didn't 'get' a lot of the pop music that was played on the radio. There was still good music being recorded but you really had to go looking for it.

I still don't 'get' today's pop music for the most part - its just not my thing. I no longer put in the effort to go off the beaten track and look for good new tunage but will accept it if someone shows me some. Most new music is garbage but this has always been true.

Also, GET OFF MY LAWN!

[habernac]

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Have I become out of touch or is the music these days not nearly as good as in the past?




No, you're correct, it isn't nearly as good as it used to be.

[Muta]

I remember the days of watching the MuchMusic Countdown and shows like the Edge and that annual Christmas Tree Toss and stuff back in the mid-to-late 90's... that's when MuchMusic was cool.

Much like the OP, I don't have any clue as to what's going on on those channels anymore, and I'm only 25. The music coming out isn't as great, IMO. And do they even play music on those channels anymore, or are they just playing shows like every other channel?

[Rathji]

You can't tell me Vibe 98.5 isnt as good as CJAY 92!

[KTrain]

I remember the days of watching the MuchMusic Countdown and shows like the Edge and that annual Christmas Tree Toss and stuff back in the mid-to-late 90's... that's when MuchMusic was cool.

Much Music was playing Backstreet Boys and Spice girls during the mid-to-late 90's. That's NOT when Much Music was cool.

[Ozy_Flame]

What's the point in worrying about it? The advent of music-sharing and the greater ease in finding music for your personal tastes is easier now more than ever.

Sure the music sucks these days (pop continues it's downward spiral), but we have way more selection now. The crap that the big producers pump out is now only one of many channels to get our music!

[Muta]

Much Music was playing Backstreet Boys and Spice girls during the mid-to-late 90's. That's NOT when Much Music was cool.

No, that's what you watched, I guess.

[You Need a Thneed]

Every generation of music has its good stuff, which is about 10%, and the crap - which is about 90%. When we look back at earlier eras, and remember in our minds about how good music was back then, we only remember the good, having forgotten about the bad.

That's how music has always been, the good is good for a long time, the fluff fades away.

[redforever]

Every generation of music has its good stuff, which is about 10%, and the crap - which is about 90%. When we look back at earlier eras, and remember in our minds about how good music was back then, we only remember the good, having forgotten about the bad.

That's how music has always been, the good is good for a long time, the fluff fades away.


Well I believe there is a lot more fluff today.

That is why bands like Led Zeppelin, ACDC, just to name a few, many you would classify as now being "old fogies" are more popular than ever and have great pressure put on them to revive their bands and tour.

Many say there is a "lost generation" today in music. The stuff today is just not fulfilling their needs, so they go back to the groups that put out great music from the past.

And sometimes that is their parents' music:)))

[Jayems]

I always liked what my parents did, for the most part. They were into Springsteen, Billy Joel (we didn't start the fire was probably my favorite song when I was young), just to name a few...

then I got into metal, see megadeth, metallica, etc and denounced pretty much all other music. Now I like country music... what the hell? Well, not the hokey country music or the mainstream stuff, but if anyone has XM radio, Ch. 12 (progressive country, Xcountry) is amazing...

But having said that, I don't think mainstream pop and rap music, new and old, has ever been good (IMO). This electronicia garbage with people who have 0 ability but can be manipulated via technology to sound good. (Justin Timberlake is the exception here, as much as I hate his music, he can sing).

But going back to sattelite radio, not only do I not have to be subjected to an entire car ride full of advertising, I can listen to whatever the hell I want, when I want and not listen to the same playlist that was on in 1998 (see: CJ92.. seriously... patio lanterns? can we not retire that yet?)

I guess because I've never been a clubber and could count on 2 hands the amount of times I've been to a 'bar' is probably indicitive of how much I hate the music that is played there. Likewise, I'm sure perpetual clubbers love the music and can't wait to get out and boogie to it.

[JBR]

In my opinion, music today represents something different than in the past. It now represents an image, lifestyle or the association with it. Music is no longer about the sound, beat or lyrics. It's something else that I can't figure out, and don't want to.

(All this while John Denver is playing on my iPod at work)... how embarrassing

[troutman]

I feel differently - there is so much music being released today (far more than ever before), my fear is I will never come close to hearing 1% of all the awesome music being made. You have to work harder to find it (it is not on mainstream radio), but there is all kinds of new exciting music.

[peter12]

I feel differently - there is so much music being released today (far more than ever before), my fear is I will never come close to hearing 1% of all the awesome music being made. You have to work harder to find it (it is not on mainstream radio), but there is all kinds of new exciting music.

I totally agree and while I don't share all of your tastes, there are SOOOO many storytellers (thankfully) ducking under the corporate radar screen.

I could list off like 2 dozen right now that make me feel honoured to be able to listen to their stuff. (That's what good music is, by the way) Just buy stuff on a whim, get the old stuff. Just walk into a local record store and buy whatever sparks your interest.

Like trout, I am pretty worried that I'll miss something great just because there is so much out there.

[Jayems]

I guess for some reason I associate new music with new 'popular' music, or what's mainstream on all the stations, whereas like Trout said, there is always new music coming out, it just may not be mainstream. I'd agree with that.

[CaptainCrunch]

All I know is that I turn on Much More music in the morning when I'm getting ready for work because they play retro. And when I get home, I turn on the T.V. in the gym to much more for the countdown.

And yes, I'm become more like my old man, or like a dirty old man, as that stupid Lady Gaga song is practically a stripper anthem/porn ad, and Britney's womanizer features a young naked girl covered in baby oil.

[schnee]

Like trout, I am pretty worried that I'll miss something great just because there is so much out there.

Agree... good "not-so-mainstream" music is out there.. just have to find it.

I can't remember how I stumbled across this band.. ordered their CD, this song is in my "hockey pre-game" playlist.

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Don't understand the lyrics on their album songs... but I still like the music. :)


Is there a thread already out there to post "not-so-mainstream" music songs/albums/suggestions?

[Ozy_Flame]

...and Britney's womanizer features a young naked girl covered in baby oil.

...It puts the lotion on it's skin, or else it gets the hose again!

If that was a Britney lyric, I'd probably listen lol...

[habernac]

Ya, but you have to admit you are one of the most nostalgic guys around.;)

how so?

[SeeGeeWhy]

I feel differently - there is so much music being released today (far more than ever before), my fear is I will never come close to hearing 1% of all the awesome music being made. You have to work harder to find it (it is not on mainstream radio), but there is all kinds of new exciting music.

Agree!

I especially feel this way about live music. How many good shows have I missed because I've never heard of the band before? How many good shows have I missed because it is not part of the regular routine of myself or any of my friends?

I do feel like the internet has exposed be to more good music, but I have to work pretty hard to find it. The thing is that when you find a good vein of music, you can mine that vein and find a lot of good stuff, so while your prospecting efforts are rewarded, you still end up feeling like you're missing out!

Managing music is also a chore these days...

[Locke]

No. Your parents are probably cooler than you.

In all seriousness though, tastes change. I held a practice last week where I told the kids they could pick the music and it was a horror show. Never again. They'll listen to what I like and like it!

At the same time these are people who were emo last week and will be hardcore death metal people next week.

Kids are idiots with bad taste who arent good at anything, selecting good music least of all. And that includes us when we were kids.

Fact of life. Deal with it.;)

And music on TV cannot be described on a board with profanity filters. Much, and MTV and all the rest are garbage and suck harder than the bitter beer guy by an order of magnitude.

[troutman]

Ya, but you have to admit you are one of the most nostalgic guys around.;)

Me, on the other hand, I'm sadly attempting to remain hip and relevant in my 40s.:(

[C_Rush]

No, I think it's part of becoming an adult. I definately don't think much of music today. But that's the way life goes: I finally came to terms with how old I am when a 17 year old told me she didn't know who Kurt Cobain was... :whaa:

[CaptainCrunch]

No, I think it's part of becoming an adult. I definately don't think much of music today. But that's the way life goes: I finally came to terms with how old I am when a 17 year old told me she didn't know who Kurt Cobain was... :whaa:

So you gave her taxi fare and kicked her out of bed.

:)

Come on if I didn't do it, Locke would

[Galakanokis]

There is some good stuff now and than. I find a band will have one excellent song and the rest of the album is ho-hum. The entire albums don't seem to grab you anymore.


Is there anything that is really new nowadays? The Beatles, Zepplin, Sabbath, Floyd, Valens, Holly etc...... When you heard those bands for the first time you were hearing something NEW. You didn't have 5 bands that sounded like Zepplin like you do with Creed, Theory of a Dead Man, Nicklecrap, Collective soul, Staind...They all sound pretty much the same.

Go back and get some Mohzart and Beetohoven or Bach. Feel the power in those songs, emotion. Move up to some Robert Johnson, Hank Williams and Lead Belly. And listen to the stories they tell! What's Britney's point?

And I turned into my father when I started gettting Gordon Lightfoot and Irish Rover albums....Plus I can't stand it when my kid bangs a ball in the house just like my father before me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[C_Rush]

So you gave her taxi fare and kicked her out of bed.

:)

Come on if I didn't do it, Locke would

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks Cap'n! That made my day!

[Cheese]

Me, on the other hand, I'm sadly attempting to remain hip and relevant in my 40s.:(

YEESH!! LOL...Wait till you try the same thing in your 50s!!!:whistle::bag:
I have to admit that I do keep up with a lot of the music played today...MUCH moreso than my contemporaries. I still love a lot of the old sixties & seventies stuff as well, combined with Blues, Jazz, Philharmonic...etc etc etc.
I think that makes us "eclectic".

[Burninator]

Todays music sucks, not like the music back in my day. That was real music. That music meant something. Not like the crap today.

- As quoted by everyone getting old throughout history.

[iggypop]

Todays music sucks, not like the music back in my day. That was real music. That music meant something. Not like the crap today.

- As quoted by everyone getting old throughout history.

Exactly.

Personally I love new music, but I haven't listened to FM in years. If you really want to find good new music you need to invest in sat radio, or find something online.

I love listening to stations like XMU or the Verge on XM, they try to focus on unsigned or unknown artists. Nearly all of it I've never heard before.

Once a week they have an artist come in and DJ for a few hours. Other times they broadcast a University radio station nationally for a couple hours. Also they bring in artists and play their entire album, in between songs the artists will talk for like 10 minutes about what influenced that particular song. Overall its very cool, and again it's basically all music I would never of heard of otherwise.

I might be alittle bias though, I'm only 21 so this is "the music... in my day. :D

[iggypop]

Darn, guess I'll remove my post.

[Ford Prefect]

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Kids are idiots with bad taste who arent good at anything, selecting good music least of all. And that includes us when we were kids.

...

I gotta say, you're WC Fields-like professed hatred for kids is amusing. How did you manage to survive your own childhood without killing yourself? :D

And your coaching kids is somewhat paradoxical ... unless of course you don't actually despise the little monsters as much you claim.

[stuck_in_chuk]

I think that there is lots of great music coming out right now, and it is easier than ever to find it. Satellite radio, internet radio, and indy record label websites are all good resources. If I hear a band I like, I try to check out as much stuff on their record label as possible. Check out the bands that are signed for the big concerts (like Coachella and Sasquatch) and go from there. CBC Radio 3 (radio3.cbc.ca) is one of the best resources for Canadian indy music. You do have to look a bit harder for good music that isn't mainstream, but it is a lot easier to do now than when I was a teenager (and had to check out Maximum Rock 'n' Roll and other fanzines).

I admit, most of the stuff on the radio is pure crap, but that has always been the case.

[JiriHrdina]

I like music but find I don't listen to it nearly as much. Haven't bought a CD in over a year - when I do listen to the radio its either sports or news. Part of that is because of my job and part of that is because it's what I enjoy now.

[Got Miikka?]

I find that I have been listening to more trashy pop music now than ever before. I hear it on the radio playing in the gym, mostly, and then I find myself singing "Dangerous" by Akon or whoever in the shower. It won't make my iPod, but I actually find myself becoming more tolerant of this stuff as I grow older. I mean, don't get me wrong, a lot of it makes me ears bleed and my stomach turn, just like always, but not as consistently as it once did.

I will feel like I lost something it ever comes to the point that I am griping about music to kids. I want to be more immature than my kids, if possible. So there.

[Locke]

I gotta say, you're WC Fields-like professed hatred for kids is amusing. How did you manage to survive your own childhood without killing yourself? :D

And your coaching kids is somewhat paradoxical ... unless of course you don't actually despise the little monsters as much you claim.

Obviously I survived because I was the awesomest kid ever.

I coach kids because without me they would be even worse at everything than they already are.

Do I hate them that much? Probably.

[Ford Prefect]

Obviously I survived because I was the awesomest kid ever.

I coach kids because without me they would be even worse at everything than they already are.

Do I hate them that much? Probably.

Aww, that's sweet ... you're so altruistic Locke.

[Hack&Lube]

Your youth is when your particular tastes and likes/dislikes are formed. It's when those memories and everything associated with them grows on you and you form lifelong attachments to them.

But that's just nostalgia and personal preference. Quality of music is something quantitative but almost empircal in a way. And yes, much of today's music popular music DOES suck in terms of muscianship, composition, showmanship, etc.

[Azure]

Some sig material going on in this thread.

[Locke]

Aww, that's sweet ... you're so altruistic Locke.

Altruism is my middle name. Besides, I've got to fill out those court ordered community service hours somehow...

[Locke]

Some sig material going on in this thread.

Awesome...:D