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flames_1987
10-19-2004, 06:09 PM
Looks just horrible tonight. But these are what heros are made of. Lets see ladies and gents should be on for the ages.

btw is there any chance if this game gets going of it being stopped for good if the rain countinues. What are the chances of this?

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 06:15 PM
Depends on if the rain gets harder. They will play in a drizzle or light rain, but if it picks up, the game will be delayed. Chances are though that a postponment wont be announced unless the game is expected to be delayed by more than 2 hours - or even more.

As it is, I am not expecting much out of Schilling tonight. The Sox offense needs to go nuts for them to have a shot, IMO.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 06:17 PM
did you see him warming up? His wind up looked horrible, o well, have faith.

Game Time And Like Joe Buck would say its gametime grab yourself a cold BudWeiser.

Keep the faith, lets go sox!!!

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 06:27 PM
Leiter said that Schilling did have the power in his stride working during warmup, so we shall see...

Sox go out quickly in the first.

moon
10-19-2004, 06:28 PM
Good first inning for Leiber. If he pitches well that is going to put even more pressure on Schilling and his leg. IF there is one pitcher that I can think of in the game today that could go out and tough it out though it is him. He is definately a warrior and will give it his all tonight.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 06:29 PM
This is one of the most intresting bottom half of the innings for Red Sox fans. All the momentum can be smashed if Shilling comes out and its a repeat of game one. However, think of a how big a pick me up that is if they watch this injured guy come out and shut the yanks down.

We shall see..this is gonna be intresting...

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 06:33 PM
His stride does look a lot better than in game 1. Topped at 94MPH thus far.

IMO, the Yankees have their strategy all wrong. They shouldnt be hacking at the first pitches. Make Schilling work. Patience will wear him down more than anything.

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 06:48 PM
Boston threatening now, bases loaded 1 out. If they can get some runs early on, Schilling is great at holding leads.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 06:50 PM
god dangit Bellhorn. Man him and Damon are having a horrible post season. I think everybody saw that one coming (bellhorn grounding into the dp), man I wish he could've just got his 2000th strikeout of the year instead.

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 06:58 PM
If I never see that bald idiot on those Fountain Tire commercials again, it will be too soon.

Schilling looking alright through two innings...

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 07:08 PM
Lieber at 50 pitches through three is not good for the Yankees.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 07:17 PM
Schilling's stuff isn't that great tonight hes just going on pure adrenaline. Gutsy pitching so far, man I had almost forgot that feeling from the last 2 nights until Posada hit that near home run. This is not healthy!

ooogabooga
10-19-2004, 07:32 PM
wonder if they are actually going to count it as a homerun when replay clearly shows it was a homerun

edit: nevermind they did

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 07:33 PM
Umps got the right call, but how on earth do you miss that the first time?

4-0 Boston.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 07:35 PM
Well I love That Dirty Water

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 07:52 PM
Originally posted by Snakeeye@Oct 19 2004, 07:33 PM
Umps got the right call, but how on earth do you miss that the first time?

4-0 Boston.
When I first saw it happen live, it looked weird. Definatley not conclusive it was a homerun. Slowed down on replay it was obvious. Looking at that play straight on in real time It would appear to have just hit the wall or dropped in front of it. Thats why the umps that had better angles were able to get the call right.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 08:08 PM
Schilling going good. Still keeping that pitch count low, next 2 innings are big with the top of the order coming up.

This part of the order for Boston has been its best so far tonight.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 08:28 PM
Schilling Schilling Schilling. Hopefully the SoX can get to the pen soon, not only to get this score up but just in case they make it to game 7 they draw out this yankees pen even more

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 08:32 PM
Originally posted by Jiggy_12+Oct 19 2004, 06:52 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Jiggy_12 @ Oct 19 2004, 06:52 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Snakeeye@Oct 19 2004, 07:33 PM
Umps got the right call, but how on earth do you miss that the first time?

4-0 Boston.
When I first saw it happen live, it looked weird. Definatley not conclusive it was a homerun. Slowed down on replay it was obvious. Looking at that play straight on in real time It would appear to have just hit the wall or dropped in front of it. Thats why the umps that had better angles were able to get the call right. [/b][/quote]
I dunno. To me it was clear that it was over the wall when it hit a black something instead of the blue wall.

Anyway...

1. Johnny Damon sucks

2. The 7th inning stretch is not for political statements.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 08:35 PM
agreed on Damon move Cabrrera to the lead off..O well its tough to get really mad when were up 4-0 although its anything but over. God Bless America makes me sick

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 08:48 PM
clutch schilling..6 more outs and its game 7 tommorow night

lets hope the sox bats can help him out right now

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 09:07 PM
glasses up for Schilling. What a great, gutsy effort.

Here Here

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 09:23 PM
Holy Cow. Even more amazing that the umpires actually talking to eachother is them getting the calls right! A-rod clearly interfered with the pitcher, and the umps made the right decision.

Yankee fans are now littering the field. I'm not going to make any judgements about that though, given our reaction in the Finals...

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 09:24 PM
Oh wow, I think this series has now lived up to the hype.

What a slap by A-rod, that was hilarious!

Kidder
10-19-2004, 09:26 PM
haha that was one of the sissiest plays I've ever seen.

Hopefully A-Rod had his nails trimmed.

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 09:29 PM
That was the best thing I've ever seen A-rod do. Its even better that he was trying to tell the umpires that it was his normal running motion. Well nobody runs around slapping at the air like that.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 09:30 PM
I thought it was annoying when Jovo or Bertuzzi complained after calls but A-Rod arguing that with a what did I do is just a joke, nice try though, not gonna happen buddy.

Wow did my heart stop when that ball came loose and dribbled down the field.

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 09:43 PM
Ok, NOW I feel free to make a comment, becasue we never needed a battalion of cops in RIOT GEAR to come on the field. <_<

Mean Mr. Mustard
10-19-2004, 09:43 PM
What the hell is going on here. I am just listening on the radio and they have the riot squad out there? I wish I had access to a TV right now, it sounds great.

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 09:47 PM
This is why I love baseball in October. Few people understand my logic, just something about the unpredictability of the game that enthralls me.

KootenayFlamesFan
10-19-2004, 09:51 PM
Originally posted by Snakeeye@Oct 19 2004, 08:32 PM
2. The 7th inning stretch is not for political statements.
No kidding.......

Just sing "Take Me Out To The Ball Game" and get on with it.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 09:54 PM
3 outs away and Foulke who must be tired as hell is coming on.

he sure looked ready for it thats for sure

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 09:57 PM
lead-off walk. things are gonna be interesting

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 09:59 PM
Tim McCarver on that walk to Matsui: "It's as bad as a home run. If he had hit it out there, it is the same thing."

Umm, no you idiot, a walk and a home run are not the same thing.

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by Snakeeye@Oct 19 2004, 09:59 PM
Tim McCarver on that walk to Matsui: "It's as bad as a home run. If he had hit it out there, it is the same thing."

Umm, no you idiot, a walk and a home run are not the same thing.
He forgot to factor in the double play possibility. but in a 2-run game I can appreciate why he said that.

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 10:02 PM
One out away...

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 10:08 PM
I dont like how Foulke is pitching right now. He has got to be wasted after the last couple days...

Jiggy_12
10-19-2004, 10:10 PM
Its over. that got intense there for a minute....what a classic game!

Mean Mr. Mustard
10-19-2004, 10:10 PM
Game 7. Sox have the momentum one would think. Should be a good one.

Resolute 14
10-19-2004, 10:11 PM
Man, Foulke puts one down broadway, and Clark still missed it.

Onto game seven... Amazing.

KootenayFlamesFan
10-19-2004, 10:15 PM
Great game!

Not even a Sox fan, but I was nervous as hell during the 9th.

Game 7 should be a great one..........

Go Sox!!

habernac
10-19-2004, 10:15 PM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but the umpires were outstanding in this one. No ones ego got in the way and they conferenced for two correct calls.

Schilling was masterful. Not his best stuff, but 1 run and 4 hits through 7 has to FAR exceed what the Sox wanted out of him tonight. Was the blood on his sock from something he did today?

Game 7 should be a dandy.

flames_1987
10-19-2004, 10:21 PM
Well as bad as it as that theres no hockey this is helping me a little. What an amazing series, there is so much riding on the game tommorow its not even funny. I can only bet Boston is just gonna be nuts tommorow no work getting done at all and then off to the pubs. As for NY I hope there just scared as hell, reverse the curse. Go back to game 4 on the sox yankees thread I said they could do this and stuck behind them.

Tim Wakfield if he can go 3 and a little an keep it close, I think Lowe can go 3-4 and then you leave it up to Lescanic Pedro and Embre. I think you could get an inning out of Pedro to. By any means neccecary, the Sox bullpen can be rested and ready tommorow. Hopefully Browns back acts up and maybe he hits a wall tonight. Either way, what a game ahead of us. Who would've thunk it?

albertGQ
10-19-2004, 10:23 PM
BoSox in 7!!! I was hoping they could come back after being down 3-0 but I never actually thought that it would happen. Can't wait for tomorrow's game! I hope the Sox can win it, but I still have my doubts. Remember, the Yanks have home field advantage

habernac
10-19-2004, 10:25 PM
They're calling A-Rods interference "the metrosexual slap" on SOSH. LOL

:lol:

Kidder
10-19-2004, 10:36 PM
I think it will come down to whether or not Wakefield has the knuckleball going tomorrow.

If he does he can go pretty deep into the game, and the Red Sox can get a few runs and try to hold on.

If he doesn't he'll be lit up in the first couple of innings, and the Red Sox will have to battle through that tough Yankee Bullpen in order to catch up.

Either way should be a dandy.

calgaryred
10-19-2004, 10:51 PM
I just came back from school and noticed the Sox won! It's not over until it's over though. This curse isn't over until it's over. The Yanks always seem to break the hearts of Red Sox fans. I hope this isn't goingto be another story to add to Boston's heartbreaking history.

Pagal4321
10-19-2004, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by calgaryred@Oct 19 2004, 10:51 PM
I just came back from school and noticed the Sox won! It's not over until it's over though. This curse isn't over until it's over. The Yanks always seem to break the hearts of Red Sox fans. I hope this isn't goingto be another story to add to Boston's heartbreaking history.
I don't know if you could consider tommorrow heartbreak, if it is a loss. I think Boston fans were really done after they were down 3-0. I'm sure they are extactic about this, but I wouldn't really call it heartbreaking.

But this game had everything! Riot police and all.....wicked cool.

albertGQ
10-19-2004, 11:50 PM
Originally posted by Pagal4321+Oct 19 2004, 11:08 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Pagal4321 @ Oct 19 2004, 11:08 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-calgaryred@Oct 19 2004, 10:51 PM
I just came back from school and noticed the Sox won! It's not over until it's over though. This curse isn't over until it's over. The Yanks always seem to break the hearts of Red Sox fans. I hope this isn't goingto be another story to add to Boston's heartbreaking history.
I don't know if you could consider tommorrow heartbreak, if it is a loss. I think Boston fans were really done after they were down 3-0. I'm sure they are extactic about this, but I wouldn't really call it heartbreaking.

But this game had everything! Riot police and all.....wicked cool. [/b][/quote]
After going down 3-0 and then winning 3 straight to tie. Anything but a win in game 7 would be heartbreaking, IMO

JayP
10-19-2004, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by albertGQ+Oct 20 2004, 05:50 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Oct 20 2004, 05:50 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Pagal4321@Oct 19 2004, 11:08 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-calgaryred@Oct 19 2004, 10:51 PM
I just came back from school and noticed the Sox won! It's not over until it's over though. This curse isn't over until it's over. The Yanks always seem to break the hearts of Red Sox fans. I hope this isn't goingto be another story to add to Boston's heartbreaking history.
I don't know if you could consider tommorrow heartbreak, if it is a loss. I think Boston fans were really done after they were down 3-0. I'm sure they are extactic about this, but I wouldn't really call it heartbreaking.

But this game had everything! Riot police and all.....wicked cool.
After going down 3-0 and then winning 3 straight to tie. Anything but a win in game 7 would be heartbreaking, IMO [/b][/quote]
I definitely agree. It's like the Flame's playoff run. Not very many people expected us to ride to the Cup and it was an amazing run, but all of us were heartbroken after game 7. It doesn't matter how you get there - it's the end result that really matters.

CaramonLS
10-20-2004, 01:13 AM
This is going to go down as one of the greatest series between these 2 rivals thats for sure... either the Yankees are going to Rip Sox fan's heart out one last time (this would be about 100x more painful than a buckner), or this is one of the greatest comebacks in baseball history and the curse is dead.

Either way going to be a GREAT game 7 (go sox).

Sylvanfan
10-20-2004, 08:06 AM
Originally posted by habernac@Oct 20 2004, 04:15 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but the umpires were outstanding in this one. No ones ego got in the way and they conferenced for two correct calls.

Schilling was masterful. Not his best stuff, but 1 run and 4 hits through 7 has to FAR exceed what the Sox wanted out of him tonight. Was the blood on his sock from something he did today?

Game 7 should be a dandy.
I agree the umpires deserve credit for working together and getting both calls right without the benefit of video replay. Man I hope Wakefields got that knuckler dancing tonight.

albertGQ
10-20-2004, 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Sylvanfan+Oct 20 2004, 08:06 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sylvanfan @ Oct 20 2004, 08:06 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-habernac@Oct 20 2004, 04:15 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but the umpires were outstanding in this one. No ones ego got in the way and they conferenced for two correct calls.

Schilling was masterful. Not his best stuff, but 1 run and 4 hits through 7 has to FAR exceed what the Sox wanted out of him tonight. Was the blood on his sock from something he did today?

Game 7 should be a dandy.
I agree the umpires deserve credit for working together and getting both calls right without the benefit of video replay. Man I hope Wakefields got that knuckler dancing tonight. [/b][/quote]
Derek Lowe is the most likely starter

nfotiu
10-20-2004, 10:20 AM
So the obvious ending to this series is a one run game with Pedro coming in to close the ninth. He either gets to bean the Bambino in the ass or hear "Who's your daddy?" chanted at him for the next 100 years.

albertGQ
10-20-2004, 10:27 AM
Originally posted by nfotiu@Oct 20 2004, 10:20 AM
So the obvious ending to this series is a one run game with Pedro coming in to close the ninth. He either gets to bean the Bambino in the ass or hear "Who's your daddy?" chanted at him for the next 100 years.
I was thinking about Pedro making an appearence. You think he will come in relief or close on one day rest?

If anyone can do it, its Pedro

Go Sox Go!!!

Resolute 14
10-20-2004, 10:50 AM
Originally posted by albertGQ+Oct 20 2004, 08:41 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Oct 20 2004, 08:41 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Sylvanfan@Oct 20 2004, 08:06 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-habernac@Oct 20 2004, 04:15 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but the umpires were outstanding in this one. No ones ego got in the way and they conferenced for two correct calls.

Schilling was masterful. Not his best stuff, but 1 run and 4 hits through 7 has to FAR exceed what the Sox wanted out of him tonight. Was the blood on his sock from something he did today?

Game 7 should be a dandy.
I agree the umpires deserve credit for working together and getting both calls right without the benefit of video replay. Man I hope Wakefields got that knuckler dancing tonight.
Derek Lowe is the most likely starter [/b][/quote]
Unless things have changed today, Wakefield was listed as the starter yesterday. That said, I'd rather Lowe did start. IIRC, the knuckleball is not nearly as effective in cold weather.

nfotiu
10-20-2004, 10:51 AM
Originally posted by albertGQ+Oct 20 2004, 04:27 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (albertGQ @ Oct 20 2004, 04:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nfotiu@Oct 20 2004, 10:20 AM
So the obvious ending to this series is a one run game with Pedro coming in to close the ninth. He either gets to bean the Bambino in the ass or hear "Who's your daddy?" chanted at him for the next 100 years.
I was thinking about Pedro making an appearence. You think he will come in relief or close on one day rest?

If anyone can do it, its Pedro

Go Sox Go!!! [/b][/quote]
Foulke would be really tough to count on after his workload in the previous 3 games. Pedro would be a pretty obvious choice in a save situation.

They've said he was pitching a side session yesterday to prepare for that very possibility.

Sylvanfan
10-20-2004, 11:00 AM
Originally posted by Snakeeye+Oct 20 2004, 04:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Snakeeye @ Oct 20 2004, 04:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by albertGQ@Oct 20 2004, 08:41 AM
Originally posted by Sylvanfan@Oct 20 2004, 08:06 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-habernac@Oct 20 2004, 04:15 AM
I can't believe I'm typing this, but the umpires were outstanding in this one. No ones ego got in the way and they conferenced for two correct calls.

Schilling was masterful. Not his best stuff, but 1 run and 4 hits through 7 has to FAR exceed what the Sox wanted out of him tonight. Was the blood on his sock from something he did today?

Game 7 should be a dandy.
I agree the umpires deserve credit for working together and getting both calls right without the benefit of video replay. Man I hope Wakefields got that knuckler dancing tonight.
Derek Lowe is the most likely starter
Unless things have changed today, Wakefield was listed as the starter yesterday. That said, I'd rather Lowe did start. IIRC, the knuckleball is not nearly as effective in cold weather. [/b][/quote]
I also think it would benefit Wakefield if a guy like Lowe could come in and get through something like 3-4 innings to start the game. The knuckler is much more effecitve if the hitters timing is out of sink. By getting the Yankee hitters adjusted to Lowes sinker and the speed of his pitches, and switching to a knuckler mid game should theoretically throw off the Yankee hitters especially if they've gone through the order a couple of times. I do think the Red Sox would turn to Pedro if need be to get an out or three tonight. On the other side the Yankees look in much better shape having Loaiza, Gordon, and Rivera all fresh for tonights game. I wouldn't be surprised to see Rivera show up in the 7th if the game is close.

Resolute 14
10-20-2004, 11:06 AM
Given that Rivera went 2 innings in both games four and five, I can't see him going three innings tonight. Two definitely, but not three.

Sylvanfan
10-20-2004, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by Snakeeye@Oct 20 2004, 05:06 PM
Given that Rivera went 2 innings in both games four and five, I can't see him going three innings tonight. Two definitely, but not three.
Well if I'm Joe Torre, and I'm needing to go to the Bullpen in the 6th, I'd rather bring Rivera out and hope he has enough to go three innings rather than bring out Gordon, and hope to get an inning out of him. The Red Sox have teed off on Gordon in this series and I don't think we'll see him. But if a guy like Loaiza can get them to the 8th, they'll definitely choose that option over bringing Rivera in the 7th.

the_only_turek_fan
10-20-2004, 11:39 AM
What a series.

May the best team win!!!!!!!

I cant wait for Game 7.

nfotiu
10-20-2004, 11:52 AM
Look at the last 2 years alone of this long rivalry.

You have one of the greatest all time pitchers throwing a 72 year old man to the ground only to lose game 7 in the worst managerial decision in history, that same pitcher claiming Yankees are his daddy next year, Yankees pitchers beating up a red sox employee, riot police, either one of the greatest comebacks, or greatest teases of all time, a postseason great pitcher throwing 7 innings with blood coming out of his detached ankle; one of the best players in baseball looks to be going to the sox, then ends up going to they yanks, only to be involved in one of the most bizarre plays that may have decided the outcome of last nights game after being the center of a bench clearing brawl earlier in the year.

WWF has nothing on baseball man, you can't even script this stuff.

Sylvanfan
10-20-2004, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by nfotiu@Oct 20 2004, 05:52 PM
Look at the last 2 years alone of this long rivalry.

You have one of the greatest all time pitchers throwing a 72 year old man to the ground only to lose game 7 in the worst managerial decision in history, that same pitcher claiming Yankees are his daddy next year, Yankees pitchers beating up a red sox employee, riot police, either one of the greatest comebacks, or greatest teases of all time, a postseason great pitcher throwing 7 innings with blood coming out of his detached ankle; one of the best players in baseball looks to be going to the sox, then ends up going to they yanks, only to be involved in one of the most bizarre plays that may have decided the outcome of last nights game after being the center of a bench clearing brawl earlier in the year.

WWF has nothing on baseball man, you can't even script this stuff.
Do you get the feeling that the Cards and Astros feel like the guy from the scene in Tombstone where Doc Holliday says "Oh, I'm sorry Johnny, I forgot about you. You may go now."

Jiggy_12
10-20-2004, 12:08 PM
Originally posted by nfotiu@Oct 20 2004, 11:52 AM
Look at the last 2 years alone of this long rivalry.

You have one of the greatest all time pitchers throwing a 72 year old man to the ground only to lose game 7 in the worst managerial decision in history, that same pitcher claiming Yankees are his daddy next year, Yankees pitchers beating up a red sox employee, riot police, either one of the greatest comebacks, or greatest teases of all time, a postseason great pitcher throwing 7 innings with blood coming out of his detached ankle; one of the best players in baseball looks to be going to the sox, then ends up going to they yanks, only to be involved in one of the most bizarre plays that may have decided the outcome of last nights game after being the center of a bench clearing brawl earlier in the year.

WWF has nothing on baseball man, you can't even script this stuff.
Not to mention the brawl beteen these 2 teams earlier this year. Varitek vs. A-rod, and Sturtze got double teamed by Ortiz and another guy. What a wild rivalry this is. I can't wait for tonights game!

nfotiu
10-20-2004, 12:49 PM
Just listening to Curt Schilling talk to Jim Rome today, after he had a chance to cool down. ;)

He says that A-rod's play was completely ridiculous. It was a complete joke and 100% intentional, that it was so friggin bush league, that he couldn't believe it. He went on to say that Derek Jeter would have never tried something like that in his life. Rome asked if he lost a lot of respect for a-rod from that, and he goes on to say that he sees him a lot like Barry Bonds. Phenomenal players, but the respect was never there.

Being a Red Sox/Flames fan this year has certainly been wild! My new wife doesn't really understand that it isn't like this every year when you cheer for these 2 teams!