Tim McCarver........what an idiot

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Saw Tim McCarver's quote in today's Province newspaper.........didn't know whether to laugh or be upset.

"There are a lot of moose up near New Westminster, British Columbia," McCarver told millions of Fox network viewers Tuesday evening. "A 52-degree night -- that's a sweltering summer evening up there."

If you're really upset about it, his e-mail addy is at the bottom of the article.

[troutman]

Mooseworld:

http://www.mooseworld.com/

Moose prefer only those zones where the average summer temperature does not much exceed sixty degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius).

http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/wilde...imals/moose.htm (http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/wilderness/animals/moose.htm)

Distribution - The moose occurs in spruce forests, swamps, aspen and willow thickets; it is built to live in rough country and is well adapted to a cold climate. It can be found throughout most of B.C.

http://www.britishcolumbia.com/Wildlife/wi...w/cw_moose.html (http://www.britishcolumbia.com/Wildlife/wildlife/landmammals/cw/cw_moose.html)

Since the beginning of settlement in Canada there have been considerable shifts in the distribution of moose. They are found in many regions which had no moose in presettlement days. There are now large moose populations in north#central Ontario, and in the southern part of British Columbia, where moose were previously unknown.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Mooseworld:

http://www.mooseworld.com/

Moose prefer only those zones where the average summer temperature does not much exceed sixty degrees Fahrenheit (15 degrees Celsius).

Well, since the Lower Mainland can exceed 15 degrees quite easily and quite often, that's one reason there are no moose strolling the streets of New West.


http://www.bcadventure.com/adventure/wilde...imals/moose.htm

Distribution - The moose occurs in spruce forests, swamps, aspen and willow thickets; it is built to live in rough country and is well adapted to a cold climate. It can be found throughout most of B.C.

Yes, it can be found in many parts of this province...........just not where Tim McCarver said.

http://www.britishcolumbia.com/Wildlife/wi...w/cw_moose.html

Since the beginning of settlement in Canada there have been considerable shifts in the distribution of moose. They are found in many regions which had no moose in presettlement days. There are now large moose populations in north#central Ontario, and in the southern part of British Columbia, where moose were previously unknown.

Once again, I am fully aware there are moose present in southern B.C, since I live in southern B.C. myself and work in the forestry industry. In fact, I ran into one last week. Still doesn't mean there are moose on the loose in Greater Vancouver.

Tim McCarver is way off in saying there are moose in New West and that 52 degrees is "sweltering".

Hence...........he's an idiot.

Unless when he says "near" New Westminister, he meant not-so near.

[Jiggy_12]

Unless I'm missing something...so what? He made a mistake..he doesn't know where the Moose in Canada reside...big deal. Could he have been sarcastic when he said 52 degrees was sweltering?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally posted by Jiggy_12@Oct 8 2004, 06:42 PM
Unless I'm missing something...so what? He made a mistake..he doesn't know where the Moose in Canada reside...big deal. Could he have been sarcastic when he said 52 degrees was sweltering?
He was stating both comments as fact.

He works a baseball game that millions of Americans watch, and he blatantly states misleading facts.

52 degrees is 'sweltering'?................No wonder people down there think we live in igloos.

If he doesn't know, why state it as fact?

[troutman]

A 275 - kilogram bull moose, caused chaos in four Calgary communities early Friday (Calgary Herald). Moose wander into Calgary a few times each year. I'm sure it happens in Greater Vancouver too (although rarely). There is a some rugged wilderness all around Vancouver. When I lived there I remember the odd cougar sighting.

McCarver is guilty of portraying typical Canadian sterotypes. But moose do turn up in many Canadian cities.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I realize that, trout........fair enough.

I guess when McCarver said "lots" of moose, he made it sound like they were all over the place.

McCarver is guilty of portraying typical Canadian sterotypes. But moose do turn up in many Canadian cities.

True.

As for the cougars, I was actually stalked by one at work a couple of weeks ago.

Pretty freaky.

[troutman]

As for the cougars, I was actually stalked by one at work a couple of weeks ago.

Pretty freaky.

Wow. That's scary. Where do you work? I've only ever seen one cougar in all my years wandering the Alberta Rockies.

There was a Grizzly attack west of Longview the other day. A mother Grizzly mauled a woman hunting with her husband (the sow had two cubs with her). The woman is okay, but got mauled in the face real bad. I'm always a little nervous when I go into the back country. My cousin had to shoot a Grizzly that charged his camp a few years ago in Kananaskis.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

I work in the Trail-Rossland-Castlegar area.

That's the second cougar I've seen, the first one was hiding in the bushes along a mountain bike trail I was walking down, but took off right before I got to him........thankfully.

The recent one was not scared one bit. Threw rocks at it, but it kept slowly walking around me. Not good.

The freaky thing is, you can't hear them at all. I just looked up, and saw it walking about 40 feet away from me.....threw a rock at it, then it actually jumped a few few feet towards me! That stopped my heart for a second.

That's why I like bears a lot more.........you can almost always hear them coming.......make some noise, they usually take right off.

As long as there are no cubs or it's food nearby, you're usually OK.

I know one guy in the business who was attacked by a grizzly a few years ago.......she had cubs with her.......at one point part of his head was in her mouth. Luckily, he managed to get away with the help of the guy he was working with.

I think at that point, I's be thinking of a career change..........

[Displaced Flames fan]

Hey, 52 C is sweltering! :D

[Displaced Flames fan]

BTW....

Not defending McCarver here...just an aside...

I once saw a moose running in what can only be described as desert in West Central Wyoming. Between the towns of Pinedale and Rock Springs. Anyone who has ever been there can back me up on the desert thing.

Hearty animals.

The moose in Northwest Montana tend to be smaller than the one's that live up by my inlaws in Northern BC.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

have never seen or heard of someone seeing a moose in the greater vancouver area and i have lived here my whole life