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TheScorpion
03-28-2020, 11:38 PM
First of all -- yes, the rest of the hockey cards are coming. Quarantine is a cruel mistress and I've been sort of exhausted, depressed, and demoralized over the last few days. Not really the right mindset for coming up with fun and creative new designs.

This post is an attempt to get my creative juices flowing once more. Here we go.

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Since their move to Calgary in 1980, the Flames have taken the ice wearing over a dozen different uniform designs. Some have been near-universally renowned. Others, reviled. A select few have polarized fans and media alike.

Today's goal is to appraise the quality of each and every one of these uniform designs. These rankings are entirely subjective and I welcome your own responses.

13. Reebok Edge home reds (worn 2007-2017)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/v9ebn4hha8gip3q4ge7qogggf.png

This jersey saw the introduction of the infamous shoulder flags. The Canadian flag on the left shoulder is only mildly distracting -- it's red and white, which fits, although it looks a little odd in the context of the overall colour scheme without a black outline or something.

The primarily blue flag of Alberta on the right shoulder? Man, it's just terrible. Set right next to the vibrant red body of the uniform, it clashes worse than any other NHL design element in recent memory.

This uniform also discarded the clean, slightly diagonal hemline design of the 2004-era CCM/Koho reds in favour of adopting the Reebok Edge-standard waist-to-armpit piping that manifested itself in roughly half of the league's other jersey designs. By the time the Flames finally discarded this jersey in 2017, they were among the final holdouts still using that much-maligned, distracting design element.

I have nothing else to say about this jersey. It's awful.

Rating: 2/10

12. Adidas home reds (worn 2017-present)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/8122_calgary_flames-dark-2018.png

Yes, these jerseys got rid of the piping... but they inexplicably kept the flags, extending their needless reign to over a dozen years and counting.

The lettering on the back of the uniform is no longer italicized. I'm not here to tell you if that's a bad thing. Personally, I don't like it -- I was a fan of the old italic lettering, it was a nice holdover from the '04 run and reminded me of the horse head jersey. But that's just my opinion, and I'm not going to say the new lettering is better or worse. It's just different.

I just find these jerseys somehow plain and yet too busy at the same time. There are weird stripes all over the place and the flags are immensely distracting, but the hemline is barren compared to the dynamic diagonal striping of the CCM/Koho-era home reds. Red and black can be done so much better -- and it has been.

Rating: 3/10

11. Reebok Edge road whites (worn 2007-2017)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/9owwjrn9jynl4siceu6v0k4o9.png

10. Adidas road whites (worn 2017-present)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/2577_calgary_flames-light-2018.png

Not a lot to say here that hasn't already been said. I like the red lettering a bit more than the white/black combo on the home kit. I think the flags are a bit less distracting when they're set against a white background. As was the case with the home jerseys, the Adidas jersey gets the nod here because of the lack of piping.

Rating: 3.5/10

9. Reebok Edge Heritage Classic (worn 2011)

http://www.nhluniforms.com/Flames/SpecialImages/Flames01.png

Also known as the Ronald McDonald jersey, there was huge demand for these when they were first announced -- authorities discovered and seized tons of counterfeits leading up to the outdoor game against Montreal in February 2011 where these were worn.

As a one-time uniform, these do okay. But the beige pants and logo are very peculiar for a Flames jersey. The gold and burgundy resemble hot-dog condiments past their expiration date.

Give it 20 years, though, and these will be cult classics.

Rating: 4/10

8. Reebok Edge red alternates (worn 2013-2016)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/2729_calgary_flames-alternate-2014.png

These uniforms will always possess a certain je ne sais quoi for me -- I own two of them, and I was in attendance when Sam Bennett scored four goals against Florida wearing this jersey*. That said, they very much feel like something designed by committee.

Where to start? The logo is not a hockey logo. It looks like something a single-A baseball team would wear. The inclusion of the flaming C underneath the script almost reads like an apologetic nod -- "we know, this is what should be here."

The lettering is fine, but the design of the numerical font is inexplicable. I don't know what thought process compelled the Flames' design team to approve this #5 (https://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/cms/binary/10389856.jpg?size=sw620x65) when it's clearly just an upside-down #2. It looks amateurish.

The shoulder yoke feels forced, unnecessary, and almost like a half-measure. Just go all the way down the arms, dudes! It only covers the collarbone and it winds up looking like something from a Walmart edition of a New Jersey Devils sweater.

That said, I do think the shoulder logo is cool. It's maybe a little too busy for my liking, and I don't think it would be a great main crest by any means, but as a shoulder patch, it's creative and meaningful. And it's not blue. I also prefer the waist striping on these jerseys to the main Reebok Edge kits, but that's not a high bar to surpass.

*Yes, I was at the Bennett four-goal game. I went with my dad. We were at the FanAttic over by the east entrance to the Dome before warmups and, after a sudden, inexplicable brainwave, I decided to make a bet with my father. The terms? If Sam Bennett scored four goals that night, he’d have to buy me a #93 jersey. I have no idea why I decided to make that specific bet, and I swear upon all things holy that this is a true story. You better believe I still have that jersey.

Rating: 4.5/10

7. CCM home whites (worn 1995-2000)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/jmdmg75jg0wbhfaf99eclv22f.gif

The pedestals are fun throwbacks but they're also very silly. This was the introduction of black into the Flames' colour scheme, but it was done very sparingly. While using red and black as the main colours on a Flames jersey (with yellow solidly in the background) results in something that looks distinctly "Calgary" and in-line with other franchises like the Stampeders. But having red, yellow, and black all to the same degree (more or less)? It vaguely resembles the German national team.

I've positively referenced the diagonal striping on the 2004-era uniforms a couple of times, but this jersey takes the whole notion of diagonals and cranks it up to 11. The arms are covered in diagonal accoutrements leading up to the cuffs of the gloves. Those diagonal elements continue onto the pants.

And then, there's the pedestal itself. Considering that the Flames hadn't won a playoff series for six years when they adopted these jerseys, I'm not sure who thought it was the right time to put the logo up on a pedestal, but... alas. It's definitely unique. Your mileage may vary.

This jersey also introduced the idea of diagonal font on a Flames jersey. I actually kind of like this font but I definitely prefer the one used on the horse head/Reebok Edge uniforms.

(Fun fact: shop.NHL.com continued to use this font when customizing Flames jerseys for over a decade after the pedestals were discontinued, resulting in a glut of inaccurate Reebok Edge and '04-era jerseys with the wrong font being churned into existence through the online marketplace. You still see these hodgepodges (https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/0toAAOSwrfFeLIvj/s-l300.jpg) at the 'Dome to this day.)

Rating: 5/10

6. CCM road reds (worn 1995-2000)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/ngpki2jusgh6u69bh8kmnfhor.gif

I don't have much to add that I haven't already mentioned, except that I prefer the shoulder and arm design on the red pedestal jersey. The red jersey has a white shoulder yoke that transitions into black in time to match the black gloves, while the white uniform has a red yoke all the way. That said, I'm not a huge fan of this iteration of the white flaming C. I find the yellow outline to be a little garish.

Rating: 5.5/10

5. Koho black road/alternate (worn 1998-2006)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/tkr2h0hlh0pr0egcqqpreb1wm.png

This jersey was, for a long time, the only Flames sweater to depart from the classic flaming C crest on the front. It did so in favour of a stylized horse insignia with a particularly warm case of the sniffles. This logo was long a subject of intense ridicule from fans both in Calgary and league-wide but it has enjoyed a recent increase in popularity, likely from those who grew up with it.

Black is a fascinating colour for a Flames jersey and I think it's a shame that it's only been used as the basis for one design. That said, the one black Flames jersey is an excellent Flames jersey. This one introduced the diagonal waist striping pattern later seen on the 2004-era jerseys, and it looks tremendous. It's not distracting, but it's also not boring.

When 2004 finally rolled around, the Flames had red, black, and white jerseys all using the same template, and it looked fantastic. Furthermore, each of these jerseys had different main accent colours. In the case of this jersey, the main accent is white, and it looks great.

Something unique about this jersey is that it's the only Flames sweater to have a primarily yellow crest. To a casual fan, this might come as a surprise -- isn't fire, generally speaking, mostly yellow? But the relative simplicity of the Flames' logo design means that, if it were to be coloured yellow, it would probably look overpowering. Yellow is a dangerous colour in design -- it's bright and can stick out to a jarring extent, particularly if there isn't another colour for it to work with. But the Flames' logo design doesn't allow for any such complementing to happen. There's a main colour, and then there are the outlines. That's it.

The horse head, however, is a much more ornate design. There's the head, obviously, but there's also the nose fire. That opens up an opportunity for a multi-colour logo, one where yellow can be liberally used and red can act as an effective contrast. There's some black in there, too. The concept of the logo (why is that horse breathing fire?... is it a dragon??) is slightly absurd, but the execution is gorgeous and unique.

I always kind of liked the red flaming C as a shoulder patch, and when I was a kid, I tried making a mock-up of a black jersey with that logo as the main crest. It doesn't work nearly as well as the horse head. Some might say that having the primary logo on the shoulder makes this jersey look like it belongs in the AHL, but... you know what, it just looks good. I don't have a scientific explanation for it.

Finally, this jersey introduced the Mission: Impossible font (https://www.artofthetitle.com/assets/sm/upload/2i/6b/v9/9i/mission_impossible_t.jpg?k=1593c1dbb5) to Flames jerseys, and it looks great! I miss it. I hope they bring it back someday.

Rating: 7.5/10

4. "Retro" reds (worn 1980-1994, 2009-2013, 2016-2017, 2018-present)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/2701_calgary_flames-alternate-2011.png

I'm lumping all of these together. Yell at me if you want, but it's my list and I don't think there are enough tangible differences between these designs to warrant different entries for each one, all tied at fourth.

These are really great jerseys and were such a breath of fresh air when they were reintroduced in 2009. They look like a fire truck! (https://img-s-msn-com.akamaized.net/tenant/amp/entityid/BBOWanV.img?h=0&w=720&m=6&q=60&u=t&o=f&l=f&x=296&y=517) It's awesome. The striping is great, the colours are bright and vibrant, and the lettering is simple and sharp. It's a terrific uniform and I don't think anybody would complain if they became the primary threads next season, as expected.

So many legends have worn these. Lanny, MacInnis, Nieuwendyk, Jarome, Gaudreau, Nilsson... unless you're a huge Val Bure fan, chances are your favourite Flame of all time has skated in this jersey. It's basically the Flames' "jersey of record." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newspaper_of_record) These were the jerseys to get covered in champagne in the post-Cup celebrations in the Forum.

They're simple. They're timeless. They're... only the fourth-best jerseys the Flames have ever worn. (Sorry).

Rating: 9/10

3. "Retro" whites (worn 1980-1994, 2019-present)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/ib39hn9jkfqnmbregew2yfa6b.gif

In theory, I should hate these. I dislike shoulder yokes that only cover the collarbone. The striping doesn't look like it came from a fire engine. "Yellow outlines on a white jersey" is a phrase that makes me shudder.

But... my god, it works. This is a clean, gorgeous, and classic jersey that avoids the one main pitfall of its red counterpart: the McDonald's colour scheme. Without black, the retro reds are a tiny bit too vibrant, too colourful.

The whites, though, look a little more mature. They're simultaneously classic and classy. They even look a bit preppy -- in a good way. You could probably get away with wearing one of these to a semi-formal gathering. They look a little like something a talented aunt would crochet for her extended family.

...OK, I can't do this anymore. Look, this is the most subjective opinion on this list. I have no justification for this particular ranking other than "I think it looks nicer." If I had a choice between buying this jersey or the red retro, I'd buy the white one nine times out of 10.

Let me try again. The white jersey offers subtle contrasts and looks more distinguished... I guess. Sure.

Rating: 9.5/10

2. Koho/CCM whites (worn 2000-2007)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/0p0p12d8l6g5juraj64fdnfuq.png

These jerseys follow the template introduced by the horse head and they absolutely rule. They're everything a modern Flames jersey should be. They use black sparingly, but effectively, and the contrasting ability that this one colour offers does wonders towards creating a delightful design.

I've always found the diagonal waist stripe to resemble the westward mountains. If that was the designers' intent, I think it's a gloriously subtle nod to the geography of Calgary and its surrounding area. I love it and I hope it comes back in the future.

The sentimental value of this jersey is off-the-charts. Think of all the huge moments from 2004 that took place in this uniform. Montador's OT winner, Saprykin capitalizing on the Shift, Gelinas' dagger against the Canucks... there are more. That doesn't really have anything to do with the quality of the design, but... it's a subjective list. Heck, Giordano scored his first two goals in this sweater. Memories like that colour your perception of things. I didn't watch the 2004 run and I still feel that additional appreciation.

There's not a lot else to say here that I didn't say in the horse head entry. The Mission: Impossible font shines. Continuing a trend with the template, this jersey has its own main accent colour, red, and it looks awesome and cohesive. The horse head on the shoulders is, for lack of a better word, badass.

Please bring these back!

Rating: 9.9/10

1. Koho/CCM reds (worn 2003-2007)

https://content.sportslogos.net/logos/1/5/full/fzhupegstup72fbb004c81n1f.png

It is honestly criminal that these beautiful jerseys were only worn for three seasons before being cast aside in favour of the truly awful Reebok knockoffs. This jersey is gorgeous in every way. The red and black complement each other like Gaudreau and Monahan, peanut butter and jam, or Australians and a scrape of vegemite.

While the pedestals may have introduced black into the Flames’ classic red silks, these uniforms married red with black more effectively than any hockey jersey seen before or since. Remember how I said the diagonal striping on the white jersey looks like the mountains? On this jersey, it looks like a frickin’ volcano, ready to burn up the opposing team before they can get across their own blue line.

The piping is gloriously absent, allowing the red to encompass the front and back of the sweater unimpeded by distraction. The flags are nowhere to be found. This jersey is like a volcano, remember. What kind of volcano would stop in the middle of shooting out fire to spit out water fluoridated by the well-meaning folks from the Alberta legislature? One sponsored by Reebok Edge, probably.

Once again, the trend of one primary colour/one main accent colour continues. In this case, the main accent is black, albeit with one minor discrepancy: the font for the players’ names is white. This was not originally the case, however; when these uniforms were first unveiled, the lettering was black to match the numbers (you can still see people wearing this version of the jersey at the ‘Dome), but the colour was changed to white after complaints that nobody could tell Lombardi from Lowry — or anyone else, for that matter.

The idea of having three jerseys follow the same unique template is so smart and I wish the Flames had utilized that template for more than just two seasons (2003-04 and 2005-06). It looks so good in retrospect and recent iterations of the flaming silks look so bland and uninspired in comparison.

In short: this is the cream of the crop.

Rating: 10/10

Otto-matic
03-29-2020, 12:44 AM
My only change to your list is bumping up the 2011 heritage classic over the pedestal jerseys.

J79
03-29-2020, 12:45 AM
I think I like the retro whites (3) the best. They just look so good.

The CCM white (7) has a lot of sentimentel value for me.
It was my first Flames jersey back in 1996.
Remember, internet wasn't really around yet so good luck finding a Flames (or any hockey) jersey in The Netherlands.
I finally found an address and they had only one Flames jersey and in one size only.
It was way too big when I was 17 and it still is but I still wore it every single day for 2 years I guess.

2 years later I went back to the same place cause the owner had phoned me that he had a new Flames jersey for me (the black horsehead)
I couldn't check if it was a real Flames jersey but he convinced me I should buy it because it was the only one in Europe. He said he took it from a fair he attended and he wasn't allowed to sell it really.
Ofcourse that made it more interesting for me so I bought it and I probably overpaid :)
The owner also had a game worn Gretzky jersey... it was the first and last time I ever touched an oilers jersey.

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 12:52 AM
My only change to your list is bumping up the 2011 heritage classic over the pedestal jerseys.

I gave the HC jersey a 4/10 while I gave the pedestals a 5 and a 5.5, so they might seem like they're close in terms of my subjective opinion... but I'll say this.

This rating system operates like the much more famous Richter magnitude scale, used for measuring earthquakes. The Richter scale is logarithmic, meaning that an earthquake that measures a 4.0 on it is 10 times stronger than one that measures a 3.0, while a 3.0 is 10 times stronger than one that measures a 2.0 (therefore making a 4.0 100 times stronger than a 2.0).

That also applies here. To me, they're not even in the same stratosphere. But I respect your opinion. :)

locoenchilada
03-29-2020, 12:54 AM
Very well thought out and organized post. Thank you, Scorpion.

AC
03-29-2020, 12:57 AM
The big takeaway is that the Flames need to go full retro home and away. Then in a couple years come out with a fun 3rd.

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 01:00 AM
The big takeaway is that the Flames need to go full retro home and away. Then in a couple years come out with a fun 3rd.

I would love to see a uniform with the retro colours but in this template.

http://www.nhluniforms.com/Flames/Images/Flames16.png

Maybe I'll try mocking something up.

Ring of Fire
03-29-2020, 07:44 AM
Nice work! I’d love to see a ranking of Flames goalie masks next.

Fuzz
03-29-2020, 09:06 AM
Any ranking that doesn't have the retros as #1 and 2 is incorrect.

Scroopy Noopers
03-29-2020, 09:25 AM
I can’t believe you typed this out twice! Nice breakdown!

I liked the 2011 HC jerseys. They experienced a level of purchased knockoffs that had never been seen by a flames jersey, and hasn’t been seen since, and the knockoffs really ruined a lot of people’s opinions. The fake ones were just awful.

CofR
03-29-2020, 09:40 AM
Those 2013-2016 Edge alternate jerseys have grown on me looking back. I really disliked them at the time, but when I see them at the dome now I find myself thinking that they look nicer than I initially thought. Part of it may be that I absolutely love the shoulder patches on those jerseys (only part of those jerseys I liked at the time)

tvp2003
03-29-2020, 09:59 AM
The 2013-16 alternates had some very good elements. I think the backlash was that (i) the primary crest was the weakest part of the jersey, and (ii) everyone was so sick of the flag jerseys and the alternates had too similar a feel.

I also think the 2011 Heritage jerseys are at least a 5 or 6 out of 10 — a subtle feature was the “felt” cresting which I really liked.

GGG
03-29-2020, 10:47 AM
I really like the heritage classic Jersey and picked one up for basically for free.

I think most of the issues with the heritage classic jersey are the Ronald McDonald fakes that came out before the heritage classic jerseys were released and still out number the real jerseys.

If people had only seen the correct ones the perception would have been much different. Even your picture you have there doesn’t really reflect what the jersey actually looked liked.

I agree the pants were wired but the logo works really well.

Tabaracci_31
03-29-2020, 11:08 AM
Thanks for the list, Scorp! My two favourites are the original red, white and yellow jerseys. The white home jersey comes out slightly ahead for me. I share the sentimentality towards the pedestal as it was my first Flames jersey.

Out of curiosity, what was the consensus when the Flames switched to the pedestal jerseys? Had they announced they were making a change the season before? I was just getting into hockey at that point and don’t really remember.

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 11:08 AM
I can’t believe you typed this out twice! Nice breakdown!

Actually I just happened to get lucky. My computer managed to recover the document after all.

tvp2003
03-29-2020, 11:14 AM
The big takeaway is that the Flames need to go full retro home and away. Then in a couple years come out with a fun 3rd.


Red Blasty?


https://i.imgur.com/lC4AQXh.png

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 11:15 AM
I'm surprised at how good that looks.

Tabaracci_31
03-29-2020, 05:07 PM
Nice work! I’d love to see a ranking of Flames goalie masks next.

If everyone is into it, I can make an all-time goalie masks thread. Do we want to do a Top 10? Top 15? Special Top 10 for helmet/cage combos?

Bingo
03-29-2020, 05:11 PM
Love it Scorp ... and appreciate the effort.

I wish we could launch a poll with masks in pictures, but the software won't do it.

Scroopy Noopers
03-29-2020, 05:18 PM
If everyone is into it, I can make an all-time goalie masks thread. Do we want to do a Top 10? Top 15? Special Top 10 for helmet/cage combos?

And I wouldn’t call bias at all to have 2 Tabaracci entries!

Tabaracci_31
03-29-2020, 05:30 PM
Love it Scorp ... and appreciate the effort.

I wish we could launch a poll with masks in pictures, but the software won't do it.

Shoot, I didn’t consider that. One option is I could make a blog post or something elsewhere and do the pictures and post the link on here. I’ve certainly got the time. I’m open to what you pals think! I don’t think I can let the idea of ranking Cooper, CCM and JOFA combos go to waste...

Bingo
03-29-2020, 05:31 PM
Shoot, I didn’t consider that. One option is I could make a blog post or something elsewhere and do the pictures and post the link on here. I’ve certainly got the time. I’m open to what you pals think! I don’t think I can let the idea of ranking Cooper, CCM and JOFA combos go to waste...

You could post 15, and respondents have to "quote" the mask they like the best in a reply?!

Sainters7
03-29-2020, 05:58 PM
Out of curiosity, what was the consensus when the Flames switched to the pedestal jerseys? Had they announced they were making a change the season before? I was just getting into hockey at that point and don’t really remember.

At the time I think they were well received - my 12 year old self at least wanted, and got, a Trevor Kidd one the Christmas after they switched to that - but I think they went stale fast, especially as we came out of the crazy new jerseys period of the late 90s. Probably didn't help the Flames went from contender to the dark, Young Guns era basically as soon as they switched. Which is when ol' Blasty basically supplanted it, and the new, then home whites that carried over into the 04 era.

I think in recent years with all the 90s nostalgia that they're looked at well again, if even in an ironic 90s way. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually make a 3rd jerseys or even throwback night return (but Blasty would be first, going by public sentiment).

dirk diggler
03-29-2020, 06:03 PM
I like number 3 the best still. i have the #12 LOOB in that style. classic

AC
03-29-2020, 06:20 PM
You could post 15, and respondents have to "quote" the mask they like the best in a reply?!

Or have the first 15 posts one mask option each, and you thank the post you're voting for.

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 06:23 PM
Or, simply, you have a thread with a poll with 15 options all labelled "1-15," and then in the OP you post pictures of 15 masks each labelled with a number.

CorsiHockeyLeague
03-29-2020, 06:27 PM
Your list makes no sense to me. The ones you have at the top are too similar to the current ones for the ranking to work.

I'd put the retros at the top, then the pedestals, then the current ones and the 2000s jerseys in whatever order, then all the alternates, with the "Calgary" western font at the bottom and I guess the heritage jerseys second last.

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 06:41 PM
Your list makes no sense to me. The ones you have at the top are too similar to the current ones for the ranking to work.

With all due respect, I think you're dead wrong. The only similarities between the uniforms I have ranked dead last and the ones I have first are that they're red and white, they have the Mission: Impossible font, and, of course, the Flaming C. Everything else couldn't be more different. I'm not sure if you actually read the reasoning I gave (it's a pretty long post, so I don't blame you); in case you didn't, I'll condense it for you.

The Reebok Edge jerseys are messy, jumbled, and resemble cheap knockoffs of the '04 jerseys that came before them.

- They needlessly introduce asymmetrical shoulder patches, one of which is blue
- They took away the dynamic waist striping from the '04 jerseys
- They clutter up the front and back with ugly vertical piping
- They overstayed their welcome for almost a decade, and the basic idea for the jersey continued into the Adidas uniforms, which are also awful. I docked points for making me have to look at them for so long without changes.

Meanwhile, the '04 jerseys are clean and modern with contrasts. Nothing about them is busy, nothing about them looks silly*, and the shoulder patch is in line with the colour scheme. The waist striping almost looks like the mountains, or even a fiery volcano. But... they only lasted for three seasons, God knows why.

The reason I have the Reebok Edge jerseys so low is that they took a brilliant concept introduced in the 2004 jerseys and bastardized it.

*Depending on what you think about the shoulder patch

The same thing can be said about the Colorado Avalanche jerseys:

http://www.nhluniforms.com/Avalanche/Images/Avalanche04.png

http://www.nhluniforms.com/Avalanche/Images/Avalanche10.png

The top jerseys are what the Avs wore when they won the Stanley Cup in 2001. They're some of my favourite jerseys in all of sports. The striping is cool (it also looks like mountains!), the front is clean, and the shoulder patch works with the colour scheme of the jersey.

The bottom jerseys retain the same colour scheme, logo, and lettering, but they completely ruin it with terrible striping and a complete lack of personality. What used to be a clean-looking uniform now looks overly busy and the template resembles a default create-a-team jersey from NHL 13.

Edit: the Avs are also a good example of how those old jerseys can be beautifully repurposed for the Adidas template. Look at these: they're awesome.

http://www.nhluniforms.com/Avalanche/Images/Avalanche16.png

Bourque's Twin
03-29-2020, 06:59 PM
I think home and away should be a combo.

1/2. Retro white and red
3/4. 2004 Home and away
5/6. 90’s diagonal Iginla rookie era
7. Horse
8. Third jersey that says Calgary
9. Everything post-2004 jersey blends together, so those home/away
10. Ronald McDonald Heritage Classic

Tabaracci_31
03-29-2020, 07:00 PM
At the time I think they were well received - my 12 year old self at least wanted, and got, a Trevor Kidd one the Christmas after they switched to that - but I think they went stale fast, especially as we came out of the crazy new jerseys period of the late 90s. Probably didn't help the Flames went from contender to the dark, Young Guns era basically as soon as they switched. Which is when ol' Blasty basically supplanted it, and the new, then home whites that carried over into the 04 era.

I think in recent years with all the 90s nostalgia that they're looked at well again, if even in an ironic 90s way. I wouldn't be surprised if they eventually make a 3rd jerseys or even throwback night return (but Blasty would be first, going by public sentiment).

Hah! We’re not so different, you and I...I wanted a Kidd (or Tabaracci, they were both like superheroes to me then) jersey and my parents, in a shrewd move that I didn’t understand at the time, got my last name and #31. In conclusion, I’ll get to work on this mask list. You guys are all so rad!

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 07:01 PM
^ I was always partial to Chad Johnson's masks.

calgaryred
03-29-2020, 08:58 PM
I think home and away should be a combo.



1/2. Retro white and red

3/4. 2004 Home and away

5/6. 90’s diagonal Iginla rookie era

7. Horse

8. Third jersey that says Calgary

9. Everything post-2004 jersey blends together, so those home/away

10. Ronald McDonald Heritage ClassicThis is all correct

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White Out 403
03-29-2020, 09:08 PM
I think the heritage 80s jerseys are a pretty big fad right now. they're nice, yes, but, i agree that the best were the 04 style red and whites. on the modern style better fitting jerseys they'd look fantastic.

the redesign was so unnecessary

Erick Estrada
03-29-2020, 09:26 PM
I would say my list would be more or less identical with the retros and Koho's switched. The current jerseys are just awful and need to go.

getbak
03-29-2020, 09:46 PM
I suspect/hope they would have gone full retro in the playoffs this year with a full-time switch next season. As such, I hope that whenever hockey returns, we will have seen the last of the flags.

N-E-B
03-29-2020, 10:04 PM
My rankings would be

1. 80’s white
2. 80’s red
3. 04 red
4. 04 white
5. Black horse head
6. Red pedestal
7. White pedestal
8. White adidas
9. Red adidas
10. 2011 Heritage Classic
11. White Reebok edge
12. Red Reebok edge
13. Cowboy should we wordmark abomination

Typing this list made me realize how many awful uniforms we’ve had over the years. I’d say only 4/13 of them are truly great jerseys, the horse head is decent, and the rest are pretty awful.

Matty81
03-29-2020, 10:50 PM
Respect for the time you took to write this.

For me the retros would also be 1 and 2. I like the old home whites the best.

I'd also bump the pedestals up a bit too. I like them more and more over time... mainly because of the shoulders on both but especially the red one I thought looked really sharp. Without the pedestal itself they would be perfect for the era. Same with the jerseys with the V at the bottom from the cup finals run... liked the red a lot more than the white.

Definately agree that anything with the flag shoulder patches is bottom of the list garbage.

I didnt mind any of the novel ones, the HC jersey, blasty or the wordmark but they would be below the 6 regular shirts I liked. Blasty jersey is ok but it doesn't merit all the love it's getting lately. The jersey color is nice but the logo is not great. I always wished they had used the fire breathing dragon The SJ flames wore instead of the snot rocket horse.

1. Retro white
2. Retro red
3. Pedestal red
4. Early 2000s "V" red
5. Early 2000s "V" white
6. Pedestal white
7. Blasty
8. HC
9. Wordmark
10. Anything with a blue flag shoulder patch

TheScorpion
03-29-2020, 10:55 PM
I agree with your take on the pedestals, especially the red one (I actually own one that's signed by Iginla!). Those shoulders really are awesome and I like the red arm numbers.

FlameX
03-30-2020, 03:50 AM
I want the Flames to go back to the 04 jerseys. It just looks so good and better than the retros in my opinion. I find the retros are to bright for my eyes.

TheIronMaiden
03-30-2020, 10:43 AM
I like the Calgary Script Jersey. The Yellow highlights, and straight lines look sharp ( the same could be said about the 'retros'. I think that it is a jersey that will age well. In ten years or so people like the retro look. The same can't be said about the Rebok or Addidas jerseys.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 10:47 AM
Thoughts?

https://i.imgur.com/UqmcTO3.png

getbak
03-30-2020, 10:49 AM
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TheIronMaiden
03-30-2020, 11:19 AM
It would be better if you made the trim all yellow.

getbak
03-30-2020, 11:21 AM
I would try just taking the white version of that jersey and swapping the white and red colours.

N-E-B
03-30-2020, 03:35 PM
Thoughts?

https://i.imgur.com/UqmcTO3.png

Close, but I think it could be I improved slightly if the stripes followed pattern on the 80’s jersey where there was a little red in between the yellow and white stripes. I’d also stick with the 80’s lettering.

That would make for a cool hybrid of the 80’s and 04.

AC
03-30-2020, 03:44 PM
What about retro home/away, plus a black throwback?

The original horsehead, the horsehead with the CF shoulder logos, or with the horsehead / CF logos swapped:

https://i.imgur.com/mVfyY7r.gif

Scroopy Noopers
03-30-2020, 04:06 PM
What about retro home/away, plus a black throwback?

The original horsehead, the horsehead with the CF shoulder logos, or with the horsehead / CF logos swapped:

https://i.imgur.com/mVfyY7r.gif

Oh baby. I like #2 and #3 for the blacks.

tvp2003
03-30-2020, 05:06 PM
Oh baby. I like #2 and #3 for the blacks.

I know most people think of the CF logo as a secondary logo, but if they rolled out #3 back in 2013, I bet they sell a lot more jerseys than they did with the Wordmark.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 05:08 PM
I dunno. I said the script logo looks like it belongs on a single-A baseball jersey but the CF logo also wouldn't look out of place on the baseball field.

Scroopy Noopers
03-30-2020, 05:11 PM
I dunno. I said the script logo looks like it belongs on a single-A baseball jersey but the CF logo also wouldn't look out of place on the baseball field.

The design is fantastic. It incorporates the provincial flag and comes together in a nice clean subtle look.

There is nothing about the script that indicates someone in design had any influence making it. The double “C”s are an abomination, and it makes it worse when your captain has 3 of them on his chest. It was the worst jersey we’ve ever had, solely due to the poor logo.

getbak
03-30-2020, 05:17 PM
I think it works great as a shoulder patch, but wouldn't be good as the main logo on the front of the jersey. The same can be said for the horse, IMO.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 05:20 PM
I agree that it's well-designed. I guess it might be able to fulfill a similar purpose as Columbus' alternate logo.

I dunno, I just think it's a little busy. But it looks sharper on a black jersey than I would have expected. I think it would be an epic fail on a red jersey.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 05:22 PM
Double post, so I'll use it to at least add another point.

I wonder if the Flames would ever consider a third jersey with burgundy, silver, black, and gold.

tvp2003
03-30-2020, 05:40 PM
I agree that it's well-designed. I guess it might be able to fulfill a similar purpose as Columbus' alternate logo.

I dunno, I just think it's a little busy. But it looks sharper on a black jersey than I would have expected. I think it would be an epic fail on a red jersey.

Columbus is what I thought of as well (I happen to like their alternate logo/jersey).

And I agree it really pops on the black, more so than I would have thought. Not strong enough to be the primary logo on a red jersey, but I think you could pull it off on black.

Scroopy Noopers
03-30-2020, 05:43 PM
Double post, so I'll use it to at least add another point.

I wonder if the Flames would ever consider a third jersey with burgundy, silver, black, and gold.

I can’t picture it... help me out ;)

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 06:22 PM
I can’t picture it... help me out ;)

Working on something right now. I actually kinda dig it.

Dion
03-30-2020, 06:29 PM
Thoughts?

https://i.imgur.com/UqmcTO3.png

The red/orange color is to bright. Make it a little duller.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 07:00 PM
Thoughts?

https://i.imgur.com/6d9Z5Km.png

TheIronMaiden
03-30-2020, 07:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SWSwoAU.png

SportsJunky
03-30-2020, 07:21 PM
I’m not loving those last two, boys. Respect the efforts though.

OminousFlames
03-30-2020, 07:22 PM
The 04 home red jerseys are my favorite, but I know the majority of Flames fans like the retro jerseys. In a perfect world, I'd love to see the Flames go full retro, then use the 04 home jerseys as an alternate.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 07:36 PM
Giving it one last kick at the can.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/335825223079297024/694359287127998544/6_3.png

TheIronMaiden
03-30-2020, 07:48 PM
What are you using to make theses mock ups scorp?

ballin
03-30-2020, 07:57 PM
Like the idea, but the bottom half of that jersey is straight vancouverish.

TheScorpion
03-30-2020, 08:18 PM
What are you using to make theses mock ups scorp?

Paint! It does this job.

Ring of Fire
03-30-2020, 10:42 PM
What about this concept (not mine, saw it on icethetics)?

https://www.icethetics.com/concepts/red-hot-flames

jessnuts
03-30-2020, 11:20 PM
What about this concept (not mine, saw it on icethetics)?

https://www.icethetics.com/concepts/red-hot-flames

I’m not a big fan, but let’s trade a 2nd for them and hope they improve

BigErnSalute_16
03-31-2020, 06:26 AM
Good list. But but for me the retreat jerseys are 1 and 2 with the Winter Classic white retro being number 1.

Those are the nicest Flames jerseys I have ever seen this team wear

Crown Royal
03-31-2020, 06:39 AM
For me it is:

1. Retro Whites
2. Retro Reds
3. 2004 Whites
4. 2004 Reds
5. Pedestal Whites
6. Pedestal Reds
7. Wordmark 3rds
8. Heritage Classic vs Habs
9. Blasty
10. Current White
11. Current Red
12. Edge White
13. Edge Red

Magnum PEI
03-31-2020, 11:34 AM
1. Pedestals
2. '04s
3. 80s/retro
4. Ol' Blasty
5. '11 Heritage Classic
6. Western/wordmark 3rd
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7. Current monstrosities
8. Reebok abominations

TheScorpion
03-31-2020, 02:54 PM
Flames are doing a nice little social media promotion today. Guess which three jersey designs they chose?

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TheScorpion
03-31-2020, 03:11 PM
Don't want to read into anything too much but...

1245053826777792512

1245055623701524482

Lanny'sDaMan
03-31-2020, 03:17 PM
For serious and true, What in the ever living fu.... Coitus is with all of the love for Blasty? I loathed, abhorred, hated that design. What is with the inordinate love for that mutated pile of excrement on fire?

Scroopy Noopers
03-31-2020, 03:21 PM
For serious and true, What in the ever living fu.... Coitus is with all of the love for Blasty? I loathed, abhorred, hated that design. What is with the inordinate love for that mutated pile of excrement on fire?

It’s awesome.

TheScorpion
03-31-2020, 03:45 PM
my body is ready

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/335825223079297024/694663772639330314/unknown.png

CSharp
03-31-2020, 03:51 PM
I have a retro home white jersey and I'm impartial to that one. However, for me, I definitely like the Reebok Edge Home jerseys and the Retro Red and White jerseys. All the other ones, especially the "Calgary" and the nose blaster jerseys kind of suck!

Tabaracci_31
04-01-2020, 09:56 AM
I’m going to start working on the goalie mask thread today. It might take a few days as I want to give it the time and attention it deserves.

Does anyone remember the Mid-90’s Cooper street hockey masks that were modelled after some of the goalies? My buddy had the Hawks Belfour one and I had the Flames Vernon version. I look for them online from time to time but they seem to be pretty rare. ANYWAY, I’ll get to work on the mask thread!

Scroopy Noopers
04-01-2020, 11:03 AM
I’m going to start working on the goalie mask thread today. It might take a few days as I want to give it the time and attention it deserves.

Does anyone remember the Mid-90’s Cooper street hockey masks that were modelled after some of the goalies? My buddy had the Hawks Belfour one and I had the Flames Vernon version. I look for them online from time to time but they seem to be pretty rare. ANYWAY, I’ll get to work on the mask thread!

I have a rangers one. I don’t know why or where it came from, but I have one.

DrDangles92
04-02-2020, 09:33 AM
1) Retro Red
2) Retro White
3) 2004 Red
4) Blasty
5) 90s Young Guns Red
6) 90s Young Guns White
7) 2004 White
8) Calgary Script 2013
9) Everything else is ugly as hell and should never be worn again.


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Tabaracci_31
04-02-2020, 04:03 PM
Hey everyone!

I’m working on the all-time goalie mask thread. I’d like your feedback. Do we like the idea of doing one mask maximum per goalie? Some like Kidd and Kipper have several gems to pick from. I’m open to suggestion. Thanks for any ideas!

Scroopy Noopers
04-02-2020, 04:04 PM
Hey everyone!

I’m working on the all-time goalie mask thread. I’d like your feedback. Do we like the idea of doing one mask maximum per goalie? Some like Kidd and Kipper have several gems to pick from. I’m open to suggestion. Thanks for any ideas!

My only request is a side vote for best Kipper version. Unless that complicates things haha.

TheScorpion
04-02-2020, 04:13 PM
Multiple masks per goalie is more than okay. Just pick the best ones!

Tabaracci_31
04-02-2020, 05:30 PM
Ok, thx pals. This won’t be without sacrifice. I have subjected myself to a full-scale review and that means also scoping the worst masks. I mean, that could be it’s own separate thread. Not for the faint of heart, though.

goodyear
04-02-2020, 06:07 PM
The cup run home jerseys were mint. I loved that shade of red.

I didn't think the striping and numbers would look that sharp on the home red because that was the same font and template as the blasty black or the Hitmen jerseys of the time.

https://imgur.com/gallery/prx3fDB

PS...this thread kind of morphed in to a subtle tribute to the Ken King Please Red.

Not sure if Mr. King ever read that but RIP. Top 1 firmest handshake of all time.